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re: Who is the official scorer for LSU baseball games at the Box?

Posted on 3/6/13 at 11:05 am to
Posted by LSUTiger79
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 11:05 am to
Could someone tell me how a pitcher is awarded the win for a game. Last night Berry came in with LSU leading and pitched the 7th and 8th. LaMarche pitched the 5th and part of the 6th. Why was Berry awarded the win and not LaMarche?
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 11:06 am to
Because when you have a game like that where the starting pitcher does not go 5 innings and you use multiple relief pitchers to get through the rest of the game, the scorer is typically going to award the win to the pitcher that had the best performance. It is not a hard fast rule in that situation.
Posted by gjackx
Red Stick
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 11:07 am to
Love me some C-Mac!
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

Could someone tell me how a pitcher is awarded the win for a game. Last night Berry came in with LSU leading and pitched the 7th and 8th. LaMarche pitched the 5th and part of the 6th. Why was Berry awarded the win and not LaMarche?


More often than not, the pitcher that relieves someone in that situation will get the win as long as he pitches well enough. If not, then it's up to the discretion of the scorer.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 12:37 pm to
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Rhymes gets so many hits that should be errors.

every single game i hear Charlie say well that tiped his glove but Rhymes got the hit anyway.

If the fig scorer allows Rhymes to break my boy Walkers record, im gonna burn that mother down.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 12:39 pm to
A ball that "tips" a players glove should be a hit 95% of the time.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 12:40 pm to
you dont watch many games do you?
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 12:40 pm to
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A ball that "tips" a players glove should be a hit 95% of the time.


Agreed.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 12:43 pm to
You must not understand baseball at all. Are you telling me a player that has an outstretched arm and has a ball tip his glove should be an error? Please say no.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
58521 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 12:44 pm to
you dont watch much baseball got it.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 12:45 pm to
Lol you're such a dick and you aren't very smart either.
Posted by CarRamrod
Spurbury, VT
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 12:47 pm to
you got one of those right. Ill let you decide which one.


Im just saying the stat guy is WAY too lenient towards LSU.
This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 12:50 pm
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 12:52 pm to
Fly balls that fall between three fielders are ruled hits by LSU. They should be errors.

A ball that "tips" a fielders glove more often than not is going to be a hit.

I don't know what the hell you are trying to say
Posted by CourseyCorridor
Baton Rouge, La.
Member since May 2012
1996 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 12:57 pm to
Lazare is hitter and fielder friendly and not pitcher friendly. I don't recall what game, but I remember one where the LSU pitcher pitched about four no-hit innings, then some guy hits a one-hopper the LSU third baseman played off his chest and the battered reached. Lazare called it a hit. I remember seeing Mainieri come out of the dugout, look up at the press box and say something like "You can't let that be their first hit."

It became moot because the visiting team wound up getting more hits, but the point is Lazare ALWAYS leans toward the hitter and gives the benefit of the doubt to the fielder more often than not.

I would say because of this, LSU's fielding numbers get helped, the ERA gets tweaked up a bit and batting average is up a tick.

Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
37937 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 1:40 pm to
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Fly balls that fall between three fielders are ruled hits by LSU. They should be errors.

Incorrect...if a ball falls between 3 fielders and nobody touches it...that is a hit 100% of the time, as it should be.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 1:45 pm to
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Incorrect


What am I wrong about exactly.

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if a ball falls between 3 fielders and nobody touches it...that is a hit 100% of the time




Might want to check your facts here Abner.

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as it should be.

Please explain this to me. I would love to see your reasoning why a popfly that lands 45 feet from home plate between the catcher, pitcher and first baseman should be a basehit.

Posted by JustSmokin
Member since Sep 2007
9165 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 1:48 pm to
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if a ball falls between 3 fielders and nobody touches it...that is a hit 100% of the time, as it should be.


It is ruled that way most times, but this is where I wish baseball would come up with a team error. A ball that can be routinely caught by a player should not be a hit. Always thought that's unfair to the pitcher.

This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 1:49 pm
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 1:58 pm to
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but the point is Lazare ALWAYS leans toward the hitter and gives the benefit of the doubt to the fielder more often than not. I would say because of this, LSU's fielding numbers get helped, the ERA gets tweaked up a bit and batting average is up a tick


obvious is obvious but scorekeeping, in general, is more hitter friendly than in the day. hell, mlb is the reason and they set the framework for other scorekeepers. i also agree with them as, in the day, hitters got robbed a lot. in any event, it is not an exact science.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 3/6/13 at 2:21 pm to
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Please explain this to me. I would love to see your reasoning why a popfly that lands 45 feet from home plate between the catcher, pitcher and first baseman should be a basehit.


Because you can't just pick one of the three players to give an error today. Should you just draw out of a hat?
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 3/6/13 at 2:24 pm to
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Because you can't just pick one of the three players to give an error today. Should you just draw out of a hat?


So this means that it SHOULD be ruled a hit. Or does that mean, in your opinion, there is nothing else better to score it as??

I am just wondering. You seem like you pay attention to baseball. We have already talked about this once today, but that's fine. I have seen multiple times where an error was ruled in this situation. The error is either given to the fielder who should have been the one to call everyone else off or the closest fielder to the ball. It's judgment, but so is giving the reliever a win that has the "best" performance if the starter doesn't go 5 innings.
This post was edited on 3/6/13 at 2:35 pm
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