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re: Who here agreed with pulmonary with the pitching (from the beginning of the game)?

Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:02 am to
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:02 am to
The end results confirmed the accuracy of my foresight. I knew we needed a strike thrower with a breaking ball and boy did we have one of those available! Glad Landon was able to go for us.
Posted by BayouBlogger
Left Coast
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:05 am to
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we needed a strike thrower with a breaking ball


...to make it 9-8 instead of 9-7
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3664 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:06 am to
I had Fontenot walking in the winning run for Oregon. We couldn’t accept that. I’m glad PM didn’t settle for it.
Posted by BayouBlogger
Left Coast
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:09 am to
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I had Fontenot walking in the winning run for Oregon


Was that in your crystal ball? Again, I’m not the one claiming to know shite that didn’t happen.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
3664 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:19 am to
Yeah I went and bought one after I found out you had one earlier in the thread. Also no one claimed Gonzaga almost won their last series. Thanks for the heads up about ESPN. I’ll keep an eye on them. It was Ben McDonald who was referencing that their team thought they would be hosting a regional and Ben said that he believed that they definitely would be had they not lost their last series. Does that mean anything for certain? No. It does indicate they were pretty close to hosting.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 6:25 am
Posted by Screaming Viking
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:22 am to
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Then that does clear up some questions for me- I def don’t know baseball, especially don’t understand how you would manage a bullpen. For example - my first question was, why only let Hilliard go for first inning?


The beauty of it all is that there is no one perfect solution. A coach can put a player in a probable good position, but you cannot control the other team and your team still has to make the play.

The Hilliard thing....I personally would have left him in. But he would have had a short leash. His curve looked sharp, and that is what Oregon seemed to have trouble with. However, there could be a number of things that happened that dictate removing him from the game. This move by Paul is a non issue.

Pulling Hellmers is a different animal. Paul pulled a kid that was doing well. Bringing in Floyd next is the perfect example of why you leave in a kid doing well. Floyd had control issues and simply could not throw a breaking ball anywhere near the plate. Thus forcing Paul to make another move. With a VERY limited pen, what if the next guy is having control issues as well? Paul almost ran out of options. This is why you ride the kid doing well.

Could not be happier that there is LSU baseball one more weekend.

Gonna have to put up with the “...this is his 2287th lineup card he has filled out” comments for one more weekend!!
Posted by BayouBlogger
Left Coast
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:24 am to
So you just make up whatever stupid lie sounds good in the moment. Got it.

By the way, if Gonzaga had to win the last series to host a regional, and they didn’t almost win either game 2 or game 3, they didn’t almost host a regional.
Posted by GoneFishing21
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:28 am to
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So you just make up whatever stupid lie sounds good in the moment. Got it


Foresight with accuracy confirmed.

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By the way, if Gonzaga had to win the last series to host a regional, and they didn’t almost win either game 2 or game 3, they didn’t almost host a regional.


Haha brilliant. I see how that works.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53752 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:29 am to
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A 12-14 inning game would have killed us.
we still had Hasty left
Posted by mtntiger
Asheville, NC
Member since Oct 2003
29346 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:39 am to
I thought Helmers and Hilliard both had too short of a leash.

Marceaux made me a little nervous in spots, but we still had Fontenot in the tank.

It worked out just fine.
Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4753 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:46 am to
I think he played the hand he was dealt. Granted, he was the dealer haha.

I think the philosophy stemmed from the success Coleman had. Start out with a Johnny Wholestaff approach and hope one of them gets hot and can string together some good innings.
This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 6:47 am
Posted by BayouBlogger
Left Coast
Member since Aug 2015
1025 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:47 am to
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I thought Helmers and Hilliard both had too short of a leash.

Marceaux made me a little nervous in spots, but we still had Fontenot in the tank.


Agreed. I would have been really tempted to go to Fontenot when Marceaux ran into trouble, but I liked Marceaux starting the inning.
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
48999 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:48 am to
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He could have went another inning, same with Hellmers

If either pitcher hurt his arm, the Rant would have crucified Paul for 'ruining another pitcher'.
Posted by BayouBlogger
Left Coast
Member since Aug 2015
1025 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:50 am to
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If either pitcher hurt his arm, the Rant would have crucified Paul for 'ruining another pitcher'.


Or if Edwards, Marceaux, or Fontenot did
Posted by fightntiger32
Member since Jan 2014
627 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:51 am to
I agreed with him. He knows his players better than any of the keyboard warriors on here could dream of. A good coach sometimes has to save players from themselves. Watch his post-game comments about the pitching decisions.
Posted by bstew3006
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:57 am to
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Who here agreed with pulmonary with the pitching (from the beginning of the game)?


His first 3 pitching changes were head scratchers and lead to 6 runs

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I understand baseball


If you have to post this, you really don’t.

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pitch middle relievers every inning or so, get us into the 7th, still in the hunt, and bring in the big dogs!!!



Nice strategy, poor execution. They aren’t mutually exclusive. he used too many pitchers and severely over thought changes.

It was fairly obvious in the first 6 innings, if you understood baseball you would know that.

This post was edited on 6/8/21 at 7:35 am
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Member since Feb 2007
107531 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 6:58 am to
Would have let hellmers keep going.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52211 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 7:17 am to
I didn’t see any but the last two innings due to travel.

Reading the reviews, I only question two decisions:

1. Pulling Hilliard seemed like a bad decision when you knew you’d have a hard time making nine innings. He only threw about 65 pitches in his start.

2. I would have pulled Marceaux for Fontenot with one out in the ninth after Landon was ahead 0-2, went full, then gave up the single on a poor pitch. I figured he was losing it.

I have one tenth of the data and one hundredth the experience, so I’d bet there are good reasons, but I’d like to hear them.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 6/8/21 at 8:33 am to
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That’s all some of these fools can see. They can’t see there might have been better ways to win than by 1 run with the tying run 90 feet away. You don’t get burnt every time you play with fire. Doesn’t make it advisable.



Of course all of you T-Ball Legends could have done better.

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