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re: Which poster on the rant best exemplifies Dickie V's POV?
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:59 pm to Irish LSU Fan
Posted on 3/25/19 at 9:59 pm to Irish LSU Fan
What part of his statement do you disagree with then?
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Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:11 pm to Mr. Hangover
When you attack our coach without proof, why would I want to understand?
He brought LSU back to a level playing field by using the tactics of the other big schools.
If everyone played by the rules I’d be totally against this, but others aren’t playing by the rules.
He brought LSU back to a level playing field by using the tactics of the other big schools.
If everyone played by the rules I’d be totally against this, but others aren’t playing by the rules.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:14 pm to TigerLunatik
"Will Wade is an ELITE college basketball coach and it's really not debatable. "
WW may become an elite, great, etc. coach at some point in the future. However, he has not "stood the test of time" as a coach (which requires time). One (or two) good seasons does not make someone an elite coach. I think the terms "elite" and "great" are used too often.
"The only way LSU competes for SEC and National titles in basketball is for Wade to continue doing exactly what he's been doing (minus talking over the phones)."
In other words, we want our coach to cheat. Not me brother. I want our coaches to have integrity.
"He ASSUMED the fanbase and the Administration were serious about having a championship level program and he expected a high level of program support by all. "
If by "high level of support" you meant condone cheating, you are mistaken. The majority of LSU fans want our coaches to have integrity.
"Wade has over delivered thus far and he's provided a "glimpse" of what is possible here at LSU."
Agree 100%.
"Don't think for a minute that everything he's done up to this point isn't necessary and vital to LSU's relevancy in basketball."
Again, if you mean condone cheating, you are mistaken.
WW may become an elite, great, etc. coach at some point in the future. However, he has not "stood the test of time" as a coach (which requires time). One (or two) good seasons does not make someone an elite coach. I think the terms "elite" and "great" are used too often.
"The only way LSU competes for SEC and National titles in basketball is for Wade to continue doing exactly what he's been doing (minus talking over the phones)."
In other words, we want our coach to cheat. Not me brother. I want our coaches to have integrity.
"He ASSUMED the fanbase and the Administration were serious about having a championship level program and he expected a high level of program support by all. "
If by "high level of support" you meant condone cheating, you are mistaken. The majority of LSU fans want our coaches to have integrity.
"Wade has over delivered thus far and he's provided a "glimpse" of what is possible here at LSU."
Agree 100%.
"Don't think for a minute that everything he's done up to this point isn't necessary and vital to LSU's relevancy in basketball."
Again, if you mean condone cheating, you are mistaken.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:23 pm to TigerLunatik
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Except we've already seen Vitale take it easy on his buddies when theure busted.
This is what a few of these guys have a problem seeing. The coaches mentioned did get caught for cheating. Wade hasn't yet.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:28 pm to Irish LSU Fan
Thanks for the detail. I respect your opinion, but just happen to disagree on the part of not needing to cheat to have a program like the one we have now. As I've said before, the FBI didn't investigate what's going on college basketball because a couple of upstart programs are paying players. This is very widespread and has been for a very, very long time while the NCAA has just looked the other way.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:31 pm to Irish LSU Fan
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”Will Wade is an ELITE college basketball coach and it's really not debatable. "
That statement is a joke. His career post-season record is 2-4. That’s elite?
This team is uber talented, Barkley called it the most talented team in the NCAA. The elite coach can’t protect a lead, can’t get two halves out of his team, can’t get his team to play disciplined, can’t get his team to inexplicably abandon the post, can’t get his team to stop shooting 3s from the parking lot, can’t get his team to solve a zone defense. All of this with arguably the best roster in America. Elite?
Wade “recruited” well and has done a good, not great, job of coaching.Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:34 pm to The First Cut
You don't win the conference without coaching well. I think the point was some coaches coach well, some recruit well, some motivate well, and some know how to build the program from behind the scenes. Wade seems to be able to do all of those well.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:35 pm to TigerLunatik
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As I've said before, the FBI didn't investigate what's going on college basketball because a couple of upstart programs are paying players. This is very widespread and has been for a very, very long time while the NCAA has just looked the other way.
I hope you are wrong about this but you are probably correct. Just like when MLB decided to look the other way with steroids for so many years.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 10:37 pm to Irish LSU Fan
I think that's a fantastic example. That's very well said.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 11:00 pm to TigerLunatik
Not only did he win the SEC at maybe it’s highest level in the last 30 years if not ever but he’s taken a broken program who had hit an alltime low the season before he got here and in less than 2 years is an SEC champ a top 10 team and in the sweet 16. That’s elite being young and not having a 20 year resume doesn’t change that.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 11:03 pm to Irish LSU Fan
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I hope you are wrong about this but you are probably correct. Just like when MLB decided to look the other way with steroids for so many years.
I would say it's very likely and almost certain the NCAA has been looking the other way regarding extra benefits.
The truth is that these players leave high school and aren't allowed to play professional ball or legally obtain financial gain playing college. It's a terrible set up system where the NCAA bans these athletes from receiving benefits while they and the schools cash in on the athletes talents.
The truth is that these college athletes aren't receiving "life changing" amounts of money to play at theses schools. For the most part, many of them and their families are struggling or just getting by and are being somewhat compensated.
The coaches (like Wade) are stuck in the middle and are forced to play the game whether they like it or not. I honestly think they wish that this is something they didn't have to deal with but it's just a part of the game now.
Posted on 3/25/19 at 11:05 pm to OPTIMAX CAT
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I honestly think they wish that this is something they didn't have to deal with but it's just a part of the game now.
I would take issue with "part of the game" which I think infers "an acceptable part of the game."
Posted on 3/25/19 at 11:08 pm to Bamboozles
Ranting without facts and talking over someone rather than address the real point. Yep, sounds like LE. DerekReeBuckeyeJeaux just has a low IQ
Posted on 3/25/19 at 11:25 pm to Irish LSU Fan
You're a dipshit.... Just thought I'd let you know that.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 5:24 am to TigerLunatik
quote:But this is neither case A nor case B.
Ok. I will spell it out for you. If all of the facts and evidence aren't gathered and examined for case A, then, all of the facts and evidence aren't gather and examined for case B and a person preaches patience for case A and condemns case B, that's hypocrisy.
Vitale isn’t being a hypocrite unless he defends another coach on tape talking dirty. What’s in it for LSU fans to be owned so hard by Vitale?
Posted on 3/26/19 at 5:41 am to xiv
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Nah. We've been over this, but you don't like what's up. The situations aren't the same. Wade is on tape talking dirty, so Wade is dirty. If another coach is on tape talking dirty, and Vitale goes to bat for him, then he's a hypocrite.
Bill Self. He made excuses for Self during the interview, saying it's all rumor when the FBI has his text messages to Addidas.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 5:47 am to Adajax
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on tape
quote:Is he?
Bill Self
Posted on 3/26/19 at 5:50 am to xiv
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Seriously, though, it's übergay to make up personal stuff about people who see this differently from you. Get it together.
FREE WILL WADE (with purchase of Smart)
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I was just saying something silly for fun.
More hypocrisy and besmirching a player who's been cleared by the NCAA of any wrongdoing. Is your nickname Taint on another site. I swear you sound just like him.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 5:51 am to xiv
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Is he
You know.
Posted on 3/26/19 at 5:59 am to TigerLunatik
He’s a good coach, he hasn’t been coaching long enough to even consider calling him great. Calling him elite is absurd.
He’s built an incredible roster in a very short period of time and done a good job of coaching them. I was all aboard with that. Now we have to consider how good of a recruiter he really is. Once the investigation ramps we’re likely to see this is deeper than Dawkins and Smart.
He’s built an incredible roster in a very short period of time and done a good job of coaching them. I was all aboard with that. Now we have to consider how good of a recruiter he really is. Once the investigation ramps we’re likely to see this is deeper than Dawkins and Smart.
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