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Where the conference office is located does not matter right?

Posted on 10/27/18 at 11:49 am
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10433 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 11:49 am
I see bama fans saying this on the SEC rant and mocking those with concerns. So they should have no problem with moving the offices to Hammond or New Orleans and staff it with natives who are Tiger fans and who live and interact daily with Tiger fans.

This would be ok with the gumps right? The conference is above reproach. Location and staffing has zero impact on the way things play out.
Posted by ValleyofDeath
Member since Apr 2012
222 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 12:00 pm to
Could imagine having the SEC offices 50 miles from BR. That’s the distance between Tuscaloosa and Birmingham. It’s mind boggling that the other schools have allowed it for this long.
Posted by Pas Bon
League City, TX
Member since Sep 2003
1220 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 12:02 pm to
I agree completely; however, it has to be somewhere, doesn’t it?

Then where?
This post was edited on 10/27/18 at 12:03 pm
Posted by Southcoast
Texas
Member since Jan 2004
687 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 12:18 pm to
and assign former referees as replay officials who have ties to or are suspected of showing favoritism to the home school.

only 50 miles away, how can bias not creep in to their decision making, even if subconsciously?

Somethings got to be done to move the office and restaff with independent employees. The homerism implication taints the entire conference.
This post was edited on 10/27/18 at 12:23 pm
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
12709 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 12:22 pm to
Idk, but it sure seems like common sense not to put it very close to alabama, one of the dirtiest programs all time in football. Not only the location, the hiring of many alabama alumni in key influential positions within the office. Lol, it just seems dirty to me, very fishy. It's bullshite period.
Posted by TheFlyingTiger
Member since Oct 2009
3993 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 12:38 pm to
Nashville. No one cares about vandy.

Even vandy doesnt care about vandy
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 12:50 pm to
I just don't know what the location of the SEC headquarters has to do with our ability to build the best possible teams to compete.

Why can't we just put together some #1 classes, build the strongest team in the conference, and then see what happens?
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10433 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 1:10 pm to
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just don't know what the location of the SEC headquarters has to do with our ability to build the best possible teams to compete.


Do you not think that having a bama grad man the replay booth has an impact on the games? Do you think they have an impact on the thought process of their subordinates who want to succeed in the conference?

If you cannot see how this have a considerable impact on the outcome of games then surely you would have no problem with the conference hq being moved to Tiger country, right?
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

Do you not think that having a bama grad man the replay booth has an impact on the games? Do you think they have an impact on the thought process of their subordinates who want to succeed in the conference?

If you cannot see how this have a considerable impact on the outcome of games then surely you would have no problem with the conference hq being moved to Tiger country, right?


I'm saying what does any of that have to do with building the best team possible?

Go out and get a few #1 classes, do the very best with what we can control, build a better team than Bama and then we'd have much stronger ground to stand on.
This post was edited on 10/27/18 at 1:19 pm
Posted by hsgeoboy
Panamá (but originally AR)
Member since Aug 2017
903 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 1:20 pm to
Nashville. Far enough from Knoxville but either way, neither Tenn nor Vandy are real competitors so the bias would have limited effect on the rest of the conference
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 2:03 pm to
I honestly wouldn't mind it being up in Missouri. Regardless of where it is moved, just as long as it is no where near the state of Alabama and well away from Bama influences is all that really matters
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98133 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

I agree completely; however, it has to be somewhere, doesn’t it? 

Then where?


Atlanta or Nashville. Both near other schools but much less provincial than Bham.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 2:09 pm to
quote:

Go out and get a few #1 classes, do the very best with what we can control, build a better team than Bama and then we'd have much stronger ground to stand on.


OK then, gee, that's all there is to it. Didn't realize the answer was so simple. Just string together a few #1 recruiting classes. Better let Coach O know about this.
This is important info that we need to get to him ASAP. No one ever really thought of this. Great ideas you have there

Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

I just don't know what the location of the SEC headquarters has to do with our ability to build the best possible teams to compete.

Why can't we just put together some #1 classes, build the strongest team in the conference, and then see what happens?


Why are these things mutually exclusive in your view?

Can we both NOT allow the league office to sit in the heart of Alabama's booster network AND also do our best in regards to those things we can control ourselves?

The fact that there is even a HINT of impropriety due to the location of the league office, who it employs, who is in charge at the league office, etc ought to be enough...regardless of whether or not LSU and BAMA's fortunes suddenly flipped instantly...to make a change.

In essence, we've allowed as a conference the fox to set up a plantation in the hen house and the fox has become so arrogant as to have the nerve to convince everyone to stop suggesting he ought not live there. Nah...frick all that.
Posted by Coach C
Member since Jan 2008
441 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 2:19 pm to
I suspect that is what we are currently trying to do. But what's your point? Our recruiting doesn't impact conference bias favoring Alabama, but that bias can certainly effect our ability to recruit the very best team.
Posted by nola000
Lacombe, LA
Member since Dec 2014
13139 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 2:29 pm to
quote:

I agree completely; however, it has to be somewhere, doesn’t it?

Then where?


How about somewhere outside of the states that are in the conference? Why is that so absurd to people? It should be in the midwest, or the northeast or out west. Why is this a problem?

I can't think of any reason that it needs to be in the Southeast. People in the aministration fly everywhere they need to go anyway. You think Greg Sankey is getting on a charter bus to South Carolina? You think Steve Shaw is driving his Prius to College Station?
This post was edited on 10/27/18 at 2:30 pm
Posted by Klingler7
Houston
Member since Nov 2009
11965 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 2:32 pm to
I don't know how the SEC offices choose their employees and game officials. I think the office in Birmingham should have employees and school representatives from each of the 14 member institutions on-site working year round.

Hiring practices should include each school member and each working member should have equal access and voting privileges for all matters concerning rules, regulations for all schools and student athletes.

The NCAA should grant an appeal process due to any concerns by a member institution.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

Why are these things mutually exclusive in your view?



I guess my point is do the best with what you can control. I think that's the best mantra to live by here, and in life in general.

If we had a better program than them, a Bama-biased SEC would have to undertake far more overt means or cheating us out of our rightful place as the cream of the SEC crop.

What if it were Arkansas that was claiming collusion? Who would take them seriously? On field results matter.

I think LSU makes the best case for change that they want by being the best team in the conference. So go do that.
This post was edited on 10/27/18 at 2:39 pm
Posted by Coach C
Member since Jan 2008
441 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 2:40 pm to
So any inequity and bias within our own conference should be overlooked ONLY until we are able to build a program better than theirs. How about the conference move toward an even playing field for all member schools now so that everyone can compete equally with Bama if they choose to?
Posted by DireTide
Member since Oct 2018
59 posts
Posted on 10/27/18 at 2:44 pm to
What’s funny is that y’all think Bama would be any less dominant wherever the SEC offices were located. Start worrying about winning instead thinking up excuses why y’all haven’t beat Bama in 7...soon to be 8 seasons.

As for why it’s located there...maybe it’s a central location in the south ??
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