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re: Where I hang my hat and park my car re: Sat night

Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:31 pm to
Posted by dinosaur
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
1091 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:31 pm to
While I tend to agree I think that what I believe won't change anything We lost The SEC is not going to change anything and some people claiming to be fans are going to deny the missed calls We will never know if they were intentional But the miss on the pass interference meant that they got another shot at that conversion which they had failed to convert So it was major a mistake to complain about on its own.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22311 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:33 pm to
The reviews are most definitely done with the same cameras that are broadcasting the game.

CBS, ESPN, SECN

Every game is broadcasted.

Once again, are you suggesting that each stadium has its own separate set of technologies and operators to capture play on the field, and that is reviewed by an official at the game?

Really?????

The same conference that wouldn't afford HD screens to review plays only a few years ago?

Come on, man
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50290 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:33 pm to
Ok. How does that address the comment I quoted?

You went and pasted something completely different and then called me an SJW. LOL

I was commenting on the "the yardage evened out on the next play".

I'm sorry, but based on logic, if the right call is made, there is no other play. Period.

How is this logic "sky screaming"?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:36 pm to
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What about the play where we absolutely blew up the aggie o-line and the play was whistled dead only to have the head official say no false start penalty, replay the down. basically giving them a free play/do-over

What about it? Do you think you can do anything to change the outcome, or are you just screaming at the sky at this point?

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what about the obvious false start on the aggie RB where half the LSU defense was jumping and pointing and there was no call by the officials and he ripped off a 12yd run?

What about it? How about you go through the entire game tape and find any questionable calls/no-calls that went LSU's way...? Then maybe you could have an actual discussion instead of just bitching and moaning about losing to the stupid aggies.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27828 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:39 pm to
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Once again, are you suggesting that each stadium has its own separate set of technologies and operators to capture play on the field, and that is reviewed by an official at the game?

I believe I’ve heard they do. What if ESPN cuts to some sideline reporter after a play and doesn’t show a replay of the previous play? How would they know if a play needs to be reviewed or not?

They either have something else or they use their eyes on the actual field. Either way it destroys your little conspiracy theory.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:44 pm to
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Ok. How does that address the comment I quoted?

I gave you the full quote.
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You went and pasted something completely different

I gave you the FULL quote.
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if the right call is made

It was a judgment call, and according to the judge, it was PI.
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How is this logic "sky screaming"?

Because crying about how unfair you think the calls/no-calls were won't change anything. It won't change the outcome of the game, and it won't change how you see officiating in the future. All it does is give you an outlet for your angst. Some people need that outlet, and find it in screaming at the sky. Crying about it on this board = screaming at the sky.

I'm glad I had the opportunity to clear that up for you.

I get it, it was a tough loss. Usually close games are tough to swallow and the fan tends to wonder, "what if...?" But once you venture into the conspiracy theory realm, you're basically in SJW territory.
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
4178 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:46 pm to
No I'm not screaming at the sky... You listed 6 "controversies" that seem relatively easy to explain. Like another poster stated, I pretty much agree with everything you posted except for the incomplete pass. I think it should have at least been reviewed. I added 2 more controversies because I wanted to see if you could so easily explain them like you did the others because in my mind they were worse than the first 6 you listed.

Yes I'm sure that I could review the whole game film and find a call or two that went LSU's way but remember the aggies only had 3 penalties called the whole game so I think there is a legitimate argument that the officiating was a bit one sided.
Posted by jimbeam
University of LSU
Member since Oct 2011
75703 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:48 pm to
Missed FG
Conservative playcalling
Dropped punt
Dropped passes
Rushing 3 dropping 8


We had plenty of chances to win.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22311 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:49 pm to
It is amazing that you really think it has to be a conspiracy.

It's common sense.

You are the only person in this thread that believes what you are saying.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28340 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:50 pm to
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First of all I'd just like to say that it's posts like yours that make the LSU fan base look like a bunch of sky-screaming SJWs playing the victim card.


I hear what you are saying and understand your point. However, I don't know if any of us have ever seen a game where on so many occasions it looked like the game was over, only to be told that A&M got a "reprieve". I understand everyone's frustration. Hell, I've heard from people who aren't LSU fans saying "Jesus, what in the hell did your team do to deserve THAT!" One close call doesn't go your way? It happens. Two? Maybe. But from that last drive on, EVERY close call went against LSU. I think to say what we saw was rare is an understatement.

The interception at the end of regulation -- A&M was essentially saved by their OWN incompetence. None of the officials on the field saw anything wrong with the play. QB's dropping snaps and picking them back up is not an infrequent occurrence. Yet, it seems almost remarkable that some mysterious group 400 miles away watching the game on TV would pick up on that action to review. I'm not saying the call was wrong. Just something that seemingly no one was focusing on until the replay officials did a scan to see if there was anything to review (obviously the interception itself was clean)

The wrong yellow line. I don't think in all of my years watching football I've ever seen the yellow line be "wrong". I'm sure it has happened, just not that often. It apparently was "wrong", but I can understand the frustration of LSU fans.

The "incomplete pass" in OT. I agree it was a close call. But I think the fact that there was no review is the source of the biggest frustration. Just a few minutes earlier we had a lengthy review of an aspect of a play virtually no one was looking at (neither the officials on the field or the coaching staffs for either team). We just had a review on the spike. Yet, after all of that the officials decide a potential game winning fumble doesn't warrant a closer look? If you aren't going to over turn it, fine. But you seemed to look at every other close play, why not this one?

If I'm Orgeron on the sidelines, soaking wet because he already thought he won the game once, I'm going apoplectic and telling the ref to tell Birmingham they need to let me fricking know right now why the have felt the need to review every other aspect of the game...except this particular play. If nothing else, make the referee explain to ALL exactly why what looked like a fumble is, in fact, not a fumble.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22311 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:50 pm to
I clearly first stated we have our staff to blame.

The other issues are not dependent for that to be true.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28340 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:55 pm to
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I believe I’ve heard they do. What if ESPN cuts to some sideline reporter after a play and doesn’t show a replay of the previous play? How would they know if a play needs to be reviewed or not?

They either have something else or they use their eyes on the actual field. Either way it destroys your little conspiracy theory.


There are multiple cameras filming the action. Just because the main feed switches to a sideline interview, doesn't mean the play wasn't captured. So no, I don't think the replay people are just watching the TV broadcast like the rest of us. But, I do think they are getting the views from the networks just like us.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27828 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:55 pm to
You’re the only person in the known universe saying the replay official’s only view was the ESPN broadcast, saw the yellow line, had no other way of knowing what the true line to gain was, and decided not to stop it for review just for the sake of screwing LSU.

Yeah, no conspiracy at all.

For the record, here is the SEC’s press release regarding the collaborative review process and the different video feeds used.
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With the upgraded replay system, the SEC will relay two video feeds back to the league's central review location - both the live program feed and a live view of the replay official's monitor at each SEC stadium will be relayed back to the SEC's Video Center at league headquarters. The SEC will mirror in the Video Center the process in each replay booth for every game for which the league has instant replay responsibility. The Video Center and the in-stadium replay booth will also capture both team camera feeds, which will give more immediate resources to the replay process and better, more efficient post game procedures.

LINK

You can take both of your feet out of your mouth now.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22311 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:00 pm to
It's not a conspiracy against LSU.

It's whatever suits their broadcast, selling of advertisements, just generally whatever is good business when they can control it.

I haven't read the rest of your post yet.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22311 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:02 pm to
FTR, I don't believe any of that happens that was released in that statement.

They have zero credibility with me, and for them to even have to release that statement, they know how much scrutiny they have created.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27828 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:05 pm to
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They have zero credibility with me, and for them to even have to release that statement, they know how much scrutiny they have created.

The release is two years old, when they first moved to this setup.

You’re being very rational and objective about all of this.
Posted by Y.A. Tittle
Member since Sep 2003
101390 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:07 pm to
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First of all I'd just like to say that it's posts like yours that make the LSU fan base look like a bunch of sky-screaming SJWs playing the victim card.



How much of your personal self-worth is wrapped up in and/or affected by such?
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7232 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:10 pm to
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They have zero credibility with me, and for them to even have to release that statement, they know how much scrutiny they have created.


Aka I don't need your facts and rules. I trust my feelings over logic and reason. frick I wish our fanbase wasn't so stupid.
Posted by CincoTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jun 2006
616 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:25 pm to
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Controversy No. 6: Greedy Williams pass interference.


I really have to disagree with you on this on. If there was no PI call, then we go to the next overtime. So it made a big difference. I think the refs were just tired and wanted to go home.
Posted by Walnut
College Station, TX
Member since Nov 2014
3565 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 1:33 pm to
I think we got screwed in that one of those close calls should have eventually gone our way, and that’s all it would have taken to close out the game, particularly the fumble,

But I’m tired of hearing about it. We took the L. Move on, we’ll beat them next year in Tiger Stadium and that will be the end of that. Let’s get excited to play Michigan in the bowl and speculate on who our new OC is going to be instead of dwelling more on this game
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