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Where I hang my hat and park my car re: Sat night

Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:33 am
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22271 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:33 am
The LSU staff did not put the players in the best position to win the game. They did, however, do enough to win the game under normal circumstances.

But, as always, played not to lose, especially the 4th OT. We didn't deserve to win after our playcalling in the last drive of regulation, and after the playcalls 1st and G from the 7. Only when down by 8 and forced to throw, do we attempt passes and plays that would have won the game with a staff willing to play to win.

All that being said, I laugh at people on here that stick their heads in the sand, apologize and legitimize the chronic manipulation of the outcome of games by the SEC offices.

In regards to the downed knee, who called for a review? Was the play blown dead? No. Somebody had to arbitrarily review that. It wasn't called down on the field, was it? Can you honestly say it's not close enough to go with what is called on the field? That's what you hear when they want a different outcome. I guarantee you anything that prolonged the game to add drama and a viewing audience would influence the outcome. That play is NEVER reviewed if it's a completed pass. Not a doubt in my mind. The paid announcers were even wondering out loud if Devin White was called for targeting. I mean, anything to continue the game, right?


Now, the 4th and 18 and the wrong line to gain. Here is the biggest tell. This is something reviewed using the same broadcast that the viewers at home get. The same arbitrary review for the downed knee, right? Do you think Birmingham knew that line was wrong? I mean, really? LOL There was no review coming for that play. NEVER. Pointing out after the fact it was an incorrect line is revisionist history in so far as a review is concerned.


I'd also add that anyone who hasn't seen the review for targeting against the AL player in AU game on Stidham that resulted in no ejection vs Devin White's to take a look at those plays, and ask yourself honestly why these calls continue to favor one side.


Personally, I'm at a point where my interest has been suffering across the board. Gave up season tickets, Green Bay was last game I traveled to, and watching those poor saps shown in the stands after the game with hands in the air shaking their heads looked all too familiar. I am thankful that my investment has been reduced to time watching the TV.


The SEC is a charade that fleeces everyone, and LSU is complicit. It's a business and all about whatever is most profitable.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27768 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:38 am to
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Now, the 4th and 18 and the wrong line to gain. Here is the biggest tell. This is something reviewed using the same broadcast that the viewers at home get. The same arbitrary review for the downed knee, right? Do you think Birmingham knew that line was wrong? I mean, really? LOL There was no review coming for that play. NEVER. Pointing out after the fact it was an incorrect line is revisionist history in so far as a review is concerned.

There’s still a replay official in the stadium who could clearly see the down marker and line to gain.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7231 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:44 am to
How about we just fix our offense and solidify the defense first.

You would be amazed at how much the refs can't "cheat" when you're actually winning handily.

These "refs cheated" threads just make us look like a bunch of cry baby buffoons. Just drop it.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 11:48 am
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
44874 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:45 am to
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bafoons

Classic.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7231 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:48 am to
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bafoons

Classic.


fixed.
Posted by MIKEDATIGER
AUSTIN
Member since Oct 2007
2127 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:51 am to
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There’s still a replay official in the stadium who could clearly see the down marker and line to gain.


Do we really think the replay official is watching the action on the field or is he watching the game on a screen / tv ( CCTV video feed or tv feed whichever)?

I can’t imagine that he’s watching the game out a window of the replay suite or through binoculars.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:52 am to
First of all I'd just like to say that it's posts like yours that make the LSU fan base look like a bunch of sky-screaming SJWs playing the victim card.

Second, I'd like to post reviews of each "questionable" call as published on NOLA.com:

Controversy No. 1: The Grant Delpit interception.
It’s close but Mond’s knee does appear to touch the ground as he reaches to grasp the ball. The officials correctly got the time right at 36 seconds and also correctly imposed a 10-second run-off of the clock before re-starting play because A&M was out of timeouts.

Controversy No. 2: Quartney Davis was short of the first down on 4th-and-18.
This one was a no-brainer. Blame the SEC Network graphics team, not the officials.

Controversy No. 3: The game clock expired at the end of regulation.
The replay review of the spike is fairly inconclusive because it’s difficult to tell when the ball actually hit the ground from the far angle used in the broadcast footage. But upon review, referee Matt Austin ruled there was one second left when Mond’s spike hit the ground. Regardless, Austin and crew followed the proper protocol here (See NCAA rule book)

Controversy No. 4: Were the Aggies in an illegal formation?
The image Shanle used to highlight the play on social media uses a misleading angle. On the actual TV broadcast, the Aggies players are much closer to the line of scrimmage. As long as they are covering the center they are considered on the LOS, its not where the feet are.

Controversy No. 5: Jace Stenberger fumbled in overtime.
Sternberger appeared to secure the ball after making the catch and takes two steps before Delpit arrives to knock it loose. But on review, the ball appears to be moving in Sternberger’s grip as he tries to secure it while turning upfield. Officials did not hesitate in making the incomplete call on the field during live action. It’s a very, very close call, a bang-bang play. You could make an argument either way, but the video evidence probably wouldn’t have been sufficient to overrule the call on the field.

Controversy No. 6: Greedy Williams pass interference.
the yardage mark-off was negated a play later when A&M was penalized for a false start.

LINK
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27768 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 11:58 am to
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Do we really think the replay official is watching the action on the field or is he watching the game on a screen / tv ( CCTV video feed or tv feed whichever)?

I can’t imagine that he’s watching the game out a window of the replay suite or through binoculars.

Do we really think he’s watching the ESPN broadcast? Because that’s the only way the op’s reference to the yellow line would make sense.
This post was edited on 11/27/18 at 11:59 am
Posted by Lou the Jew from LSU
Member since Oct 2006
4688 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:01 pm to
I think the inc/fumble is the only one where I disagree with you.
But the fact is we had plenty of chances to win on offense especially but also on defense and we did not get it done, mostly from coaching decisions.
It’s tough to take, but there it is.
Posted by Tiger Tracker
Austin,TX
Member since Nov 2015
7231 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:05 pm to
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I think the inc/fumble is the only one where I disagree with you.
But the fact is we had plenty of chances to win on offense especially but also on defense and we did not get it done, mostly from coaching decisions.
It’s tough to take, but there it is.


Posted by kjacksonp
Mobile, AL
Member since Dec 2006
1066 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:10 pm to
Regarding the Greedy Williams interference call: No call, play over, next overtime. So that penalty was HUGE. Cannot negate it because they got penalized--it still gave them another play.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:17 pm to
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But the fact is we had plenty of chances to win on offense especially but also on defense and we did not get it done, mostly from coaching decisions. It’s tough to take, but there it is.

Truth.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19043 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:18 pm to
I would like to adress Controversey #1. The ruling on the field was an INT. The replay on Mond scooping up the ball showed his knee “appears”to touch the ground. Keyword “appears.” There is no way this video is conclusive beyond a shadow of a doubt. Therefore the ruling on the field should have stood. Game over...
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22271 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:21 pm to
Do we really think they're watching the ESPN broadcast?



WTH do you think?

Each SEC stadium has it's own cameras with operators with angles of everything.

The same conference that just a few years ago couldn't tell if Patrick Peterson's foot/feet were in bounds because they didn't have HD.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50236 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:24 pm to
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Controversy No. 6: Greedy Williams pass interference. the yardage mark-off was negated a play later when A&M was penalized for a false start.


LOL.

I'm sorry, but this one...just what?

aTm's "yardage mark-off" doesn't happen if the right call is made in the first place on Williams. This is classic double speak here.

Williams stopped the play. The game should have gone into OT8.

I don't care if they called aTm for a 15 yard penalty on the next play they didn't rightfully earn. There was no other play to be had except the next OT if the ref isn't compromised.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27768 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:25 pm to
No, I don’t think they were.

It seems odd that you would say this
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Now, the 4th and 18 and the wrong line to gain. Here is the biggest tell. This is something reviewed using the same broadcast that the viewers at home get. The same arbitrary review for the downed knee, right? Do you think Birmingham knew that line was wrong? I mean, really? LOL

And then this
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Each SEC stadium has it's own cameras with operators with angles of everything.


Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
22271 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:27 pm to
It seems odd because it's sarcasm.
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
4134 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:29 pm to
What about the play where we absolutely blew up the aggie o-line and the play was whistled dead only to have the head official say no false start penalty, replay the down. basically giving them a free play/do-over

or what about the obvious false start on the aggie RB where half the LSU defense was jumping and pointing and there was no call by the officials and he ripped off a 12yd run? Even the tv announcers commented on the replay about how obvious it was and how could the officials miss it.


Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:30 pm to
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I'm sorry, but this one...just what?


I went ahead and CLICKED THE LINK for you so you could read the entire response:

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Controversy No. 6: Greedy Williams pass interference


With the game tied at 72 in the seventh overtime, Mond targeted Rogers in the right corner of the end zone for the potential game-winning two-point conversion attempt. Field judge Blake Parks called Williams for interference on Rogers while the pass was in the air. The officials moved the ball half the distance to goal.

Conclusion: Tough call on Williams as both he and Rogers were hand-fighting for position on the play. Some people thought Mond’s pass was uncatchable but officials must have ruled that Williams impeded Rogers ability to get to the area where Mond was targeting him. Regardless, the yardage mark-off was negated a play later when A&M was penalized for a false start.


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if the ref isn't compromised.


IT'S NOT FAIR111!1!

Posted by ChunkyLover54
Member since Apr 2015
6528 posts
Posted on 11/27/18 at 12:31 pm to
It should have not not been put in hands of officials, but calls were atrocious and were unfavorable to LSU. Really a combo of both
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