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re: Where do high level college football teams get their coaches: An analysis
Posted on 10/13/21 at 11:05 am to Bjorn Cyborg
Posted on 10/13/21 at 11:05 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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Dabo will not go to Alabama.
Why? It's his dream coaching job and it doesn't look like Trevor Lawrence is walking back through that do for him at Clemson. He'd entertain it at very least....and like I said money talks.
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Neither will McVay. He’s not leaving LA for fricking Tuscaloosa.
This is probably right....but Alabama is the only college he would take the call from and not laugh at.
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If it were today, they would be in a bind.
They could hire a new coach tomorrow from 5A Louisiana high school football and be in the CFP next year most likely.
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Posted on 10/13/21 at 11:12 am to Bjorn Cyborg
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There are three former NFL head coaches.
All 3 had College HC gigs before NFL and all 3 had success. Harbaugh and Kelly both had 1 loss seasons before they left for the NFL and Saban obviously had a Natty.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 11:32 am to bayou85
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All 3 had College HC gigs before NFL and all 3 had success.
Yes they did. That's not the point, but you are correct.
Many of the other coaches hired had NFL success. Many of the coordinators had previously been head coaches.
The point is: where do high level athletic directors tend to find their hires?
Posted on 10/13/21 at 11:38 am to LSU316
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WTF are you mentioning people like that....they've won 6 titles since then. Including half of the national titles awarded from 2010-2020. The state of their program is light years ahead of where it was from 1993 - 2005.
I mean there are a lot of bad posts/takes on this board but come on....try harder.
because alabama doesnt hire whoever they want dumbass. and sure as hell clemson doesnt. so jimbo is going to leave A&M for its sister school in south carolina? WTF???
you have to be the dumbest frick of all time to think sean mcvay is going to bama. how fricking stupid are you? and then you have the nerve to say others make bad post.
The amount of delusion on this board is laughable but this might be the most laughable take. sean mcvay
Posted on 10/13/21 at 11:41 am to lsu777
Yea, Alabama is going to be under a lot of pressure to hire a former Saban guy, and there just aren't that many that are good or available.
No one wants to follow a legend. Alabama will have a hard time finding a coach to make their fan base happy.
No one wants to follow a legend. Alabama will have a hard time finding a coach to make their fan base happy.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 11:58 am to lsu777
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how fricking stupid are you?
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A&M for its sister school in south carolina
Jesus Christ....LSU Fans are fricking pathetic....Zero and Miles have ruined you fricks.
You actually think Clemson is on the same level as aTm???
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alabama doesnt hire whoever they want dumbass
They are the closest in college football.
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sean mcvay
Like I said earlier....he'd answer the phone from Alabama and not laugh at them. If you don't believe that then maybe you should go back to your fishing hole YAW YAW
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:03 pm to LSU316
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You actually think Clemson is on the same level as aTm???
yea because other than dabo haveing amazing Qbs the last 6 years they are A&M historically. Lawerence and Watson are not walking through that door.
Clemson isnt some amazing job that every coach wins at. Its like history is lost on you.
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They are the closest in college football.
no they arent. thier last search was a cluster frick and saban fell into their lap.
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Like I said earlier....he'd answer the phone from Alabama and not laugh at them. If you don't believe that then maybe you should go back to your fishing hole YAW YAW
yea im the one that is liek YAWYAW yet you are the one suggesting one of the most respected NFL coachs is going to drop everythign to go to bama and coach cfb even though he has never coach cfb.
frickign tard. bro.
tell you what, bump this thread when saban retires and bama doesnt jsut hire whom ever they want.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:03 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Alabama will have a hard time finding a coach to make their fan base happy.
Sure if they don't win.....if they can sustain the recruiting which should be incredibly easy to do after Saban leaves winning should come naturally. I mean shite Saban isn't playing QB, DE, CB, RB, or WR.
Fortunately for the rest of the world not in Baton Rouge it is pretty hard to find a coach that can recruit at an elite level and then take 5 star talent and get 2 star results. Unfortunately for us, LSU seems to be able to find them pretty consistently though.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:05 pm to LSU316
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You actually think Clemson is on the same level as aTm???
For the right coach, which I'm sure Jimbo thinks he is, Texas A&M is far superior to Clemson. More money, better recruiting base.
There's a decent chance Clemson comes back down to Earth a bit. Having back-to-back generational quarterbacks can make seem more bullet-proof than you actually are.
I hope not, because I have no ill will towards Clemson, but they caught a down ACC at a time when they had great QB talent.
We will see (and are seeing) how Dabo is with an average QB.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:06 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Only two, LSU and Clemson, were position coaches.
Both won Nattys....... Just saying.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:06 pm to lsu777
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Its like history is lost on you.
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thier last search was a cluster frick and saban fell into their lap.
2021 is not the same as damn near 2 decades ago.
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one of the most respected NFL coachs is going to drop everythign to go to bama and coach cfb even though he has never coach cfb.
Reading is hard....I said the mother fricker would answer the god damn phone. How does that equal drop everything and go????? Lord try to keep up.
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bump this thread when saban retires and bama doesnt jsut hire whom ever they want.
I'd be glad to....because when they hire a football coach it will be who they want...it will be their first target.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:07 pm to LSU316
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if they can sustain the recruiting which should be incredibly easy to do
LOL. You are dumber than I thought, which is hard because I think you are a moron.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:09 pm to LSU316
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.it will be their first target.
It probably will, because Saban will tell them who to hire and it will likely be worked out in advance.
Doesn't mean he will be good. In fact, history tells us he will be horrible.
Coaches who follow legends nearly always fail.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:14 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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More money, better recruiting base.
Even with membership in the SEC aTm has struggled to keep up in recruiting with LSU and Texas. They've always had more money.
Further more what you are saying further helps my point. Texas A&M has all these built in advantages that should make it a much better program than Clemson. However, from a results perspective Clemson has been better than aTm for at least a decade.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:16 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
You have 0 clue how Alabama recruits....let me tell you it isn't people, atmosphere, or pussy recruiting Alabama...it's program culture, rings, and the NFL.
That is why it should be easy to maintain....culture.
That is why it should be easy to maintain....culture.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:18 pm to LSU316
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However, from a results perspective Clemson has been better than aTm for at least a decade.
You are equating their recent success under a current coach as if it has been the norm forever.
It hasn't.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:19 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Nice analysis.
If only the magic potion was based simply on last role.
Unified vision for LSU by its leadership
Leadership that has no say/do gap
Resources
Great Leadership by coach(es), builds productive culture, inspires followers, generalship in presence
Great players
Getting buy-in to a program
Football technical skills
LSU as an organization, not just a place on a roster to get to NFL
Creating positive energy
And many more...
It ain't Madden plug n play in real world.
If only the magic potion was based simply on last role.
Unified vision for LSU by its leadership
Leadership that has no say/do gap
Resources
Great Leadership by coach(es), builds productive culture, inspires followers, generalship in presence
Great players
Getting buy-in to a program
Football technical skills
LSU as an organization, not just a place on a roster to get to NFL
Creating positive energy
And many more...
It ain't Madden plug n play in real world.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:21 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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It probably will
It definitely will
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because Saban will tell them who to hire and it will likely be worked out in advance.
You idiots still give Saban way too much credit for Alabama's success. quote:
Doesn't mean he will be good.
Alabama will make him good.
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history tells us he will be horrible.
Why are you stuck on shite that means 0 to what happens today and into the future. What happened in from 1995-2005 means nothing.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:29 pm to LSU316
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You idiots still give Saban way too much credit for Alabama's success.
Why did they suck for the decade before Saban got there? Except for a few years under Gene Stallings, they had been mediocre since Bear Bryant.
You are outdoing your idiocy with every post. This must be some troll attempt. I'll quit responding, as there is no way this is real.
This post was edited on 10/13/21 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 10/13/21 at 12:33 pm to LSU316
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You idiots still give Saban way too much credit for Alabama's success.
I mean, it is proven that Alabama is a winning program with inherent advantages that not all places posses. It is easier to win it all at Bama than at most other places. Is it EASY to do? Hell no. List all the coaches that have done it. It's a short list.
Acting like the next coach will walk right in to a title is just assinine.
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