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Posted on 10/13/21 at 2:57 pm to Sid in Lakeshore
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It's a short list.
Alabama has the same amount of title winning coaches in the past 50 years as LSU: 3.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 3:00 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
Seems to me that fans are insecure about whether LSU is a stepping stone or a destination job.
The answer is “it depends” but it CAN certainly be a destination spot.
Pay is always a determining factor. Will LSU pay too dollar for their head coach? I think the answer is unknown as we haven’t had a situation in the past 8 years that tests that level but the money is there.
We went cheap with O and it paid off short term but will cost us when we have to release him. That’s why it is worthwhile to do the homework and get the right guy rather than throw good money after bad in getting someone that will cost us to release.
I’m willing to be patient for the right guy. Pay him will and give him the promise for top dollar if results warrant it. Ie highest paid coach potential based on measurable results like championships.
The answer is “it depends” but it CAN certainly be a destination spot.
Pay is always a determining factor. Will LSU pay too dollar for their head coach? I think the answer is unknown as we haven’t had a situation in the past 8 years that tests that level but the money is there.
We went cheap with O and it paid off short term but will cost us when we have to release him. That’s why it is worthwhile to do the homework and get the right guy rather than throw good money after bad in getting someone that will cost us to release.
I’m willing to be patient for the right guy. Pay him will and give him the promise for top dollar if results warrant it. Ie highest paid coach potential based on measurable results like championships.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 3:29 pm to SlidellCajun
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Seems to me that fans are insecure about whether LSU is a stepping stone or a destination job.
Ridiculous. Based on the data in the OP, virtually every top program is a destination job. Coaches don’t willingly leave them.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 3:30 pm to LSU316
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LSU is a much less attractive job today than it was when we hired Saban...
This is patently absurd. When LSU hired Saban at lot of people were saying how you couldn't win here, in the 20 years after McLendon, no coach lasted longer than 5 years. We fired 3 straight and 4 of 5. Only Arnsparger did not have a losing season. On top of that our facilities were shite and we were not willing to spend on assistants, DC Carl Reese left for Texas because we were not willing to pay him. Now we have top facilities, pay top salaries to assistants, and have shown pretty anyone with a pulse can win here how the hell do you get we are not as attractive as 1999.
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.we are the poster child for the fact that climbing the mountain is 100% easier than staying on top.
this is also ridiculous. Saban had the team locked and loaded when he left, I'm sure youre going to say he lost 3 games the year after winning it all, 2 of those were on the last play including a Hail Mary in a game after he already said he was leaving and thats only 1 years.
Miles took over that loaded deck and did have a drop off the year after the title but improved in 2009 and was back to elite status in 2010 and was back in the BCSCG just 4 years after winning it and not for nothing but he did lay a lot of the foundation for the 2017 class that won the 2019 title.
The only coach having trouble maintaining here is O
Posted on 10/13/21 at 3:39 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
LSU is definitely not a "stepping stone" job. Its always possible someone could leave for the NFL or under special circumstances another college (their alma mater or something) buts that's not really a stepping stone
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:20 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
For those who think LSU Football Coach is a top five position, the person offered would have to be able to hand pick the compliance department and there likely needs to be a whole lot of momentum in the State of Louisiana to legalize pot for recreational use. Until those last two issues are addressed, LSU likely isn’t a top 20 job because of the hole the coach has to crawl out of just to get a quality meeting inside key recruits living rooms.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:32 pm to Woodman
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the person offered would have to be able to hand pick the compliance department and there likely needs to be a whole lot of momentum in the State of Louisiana to legalize pot for recreational use.
LOL. Take a break from Tigerdroppings. I think you've hit on 2 of the biggest 3 TD urban legends in one post.
Posted on 10/13/21 at 4:35 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Coaches don’t willingly leave them.
Coaches use jobs as stepping stones. Saban was never going to stay at Michigan State. He had higher aspirations and the market demanded that he leave when he was offered more money to come to LSU and coach on a higher level.
Also, don’t forget the agent’s impact in all of this. Jimmy sexton and Trace Armstrong have tons of control over things as they continually shake the bushes to get their clients ( and themselves) more money.
They need to earn their keep so they need to either get the coach more money in the job they got or get it somewhere else.
LSU has continually stepped up to the plate to pay their HC when the time came. They’ve just never had to agree to pay highest salary as some coaches would demand in their contract.
That could change in our next deal
Posted on 10/13/21 at 5:00 pm to SlidellCajun
If you're going to quote me, quote the full content.
Michigan State is not a top program. There is only 1 coach at the top 24 programs that came from another top 24 program.
So, my statement is correct. Coaches very rarely leave top programs. If they do, it is generally for the NFL or perhaps their alma mater.
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every top program is a destination job. Coaches don’t willingly leave them.
Michigan State is not a top program. There is only 1 coach at the top 24 programs that came from another top 24 program.
So, my statement is correct. Coaches very rarely leave top programs. If they do, it is generally for the NFL or perhaps their alma mater.
This post was edited on 10/13/21 at 5:01 pm
Posted on 10/13/21 at 10:07 pm to sabes que
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Florida had to steal from a non P5 program
I understand Miss State sucks, but they are still in the SEC if I remember correctly.
Based on my parameters, Mississippi State is not a Top P5 program. You are welcome to suggest your own parameters.
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