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re: Where are all the "it's not the offense it's injuries/execution" posters

Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:58 pm to
Posted by EarthwormJim
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:58 pm to
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It sounds like there are alot of goons in here that think the offense is JUST FINE.


If it sounds like that to you, that means your reading comprehension is off.

I haven't seen any posts saying we didn't need an upgrade at OC. What I have seen is people defend the offensive scheme, because that won't be changing much.

Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 1:02 pm to
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Ok, I'll bite. Are you in favor of the Cam Cameron hire? Yes or No

And why?

It sounds like there are alot of goons in here that think the offense is JUST FINE.


very happy with it, I think the offense suffers from poor tactical execution. I don't think the overall strategy is bad at all, but needs better play design and play calling.

Football is an analog endeavor, just because you don't think the offense has been a stink-fest guided by mass incompetence over the past 5 years doesn't mean you automatically think everything is great and running smoothly. There are shades of gray.
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 1:33 pm to
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If it sounds like that to you, that means your reading comprehension is off.


hmmmmm

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very happy with it, I think the offense suffers from poor tactical execution. I don't think the overall strategy is bad at all


apparently not
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 1:34 pm to
Oh and I forgot to at ForeLSU's post so...













Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 1:40 pm to
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Now compare won/loss records. How many of those offense giants have better w/l's than LSU.
Enlighten us please.




since you bring up RESULTS,how about NC's? bama has won 3 out of the last 4. now that is not talking about the process, playcalling, game and player management. that is talking about RESULTS like so many here who know nothing about terminology and x's and o's love to do. i'll bet they do not like those RESULTS huh?

Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 1:42 pm to
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theunknownknight



stop wasting your time with these people. seriously. They will defend miles and say he had a great offense and no changes were needed until the end of times. even though he just hired cam. which speaks volumes.

This post was edited on 2/11/13 at 1:49 pm
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 1:43 pm to
nice response....
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 1:43 pm to
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Are you in favor of the Cam Cameron hire? Yes or No
I've already posted I love the hire, but don't have to pick and choose stats and stir them in a bowl to dis the previous OCs just to like it.
This all about some "see I told you so" campaign for you and a few others, which I ignore until you start making shite up to prove your point.
The O would've still improved with another year together and some cohesion on OL and QB/WRs.
It happens all the time on teams acros the country.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 1:45 pm to
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And ya gotta love the execution part of the excuse



wait, you mean it was the players fault that the DB's knew we were running a ton of curls and slants so they squatted on them? It was not the players fault they could not run against 9 in the box? Hmmn after reading this board everything was the players fault.

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Especially in light of the decision to bench the SEC leader in pass efficiency after 8 games. It was due to poor execution, nothing to do with poor coaching



Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 1:45 pm to
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apparently not


Apparently so.

ForeLSU said he is very happy with the Cam Cameron hire, and you take it to mean he is very happy with the offense.

The strategy is not bad, it's the execution, whether it be play calling or player execution.

Cam Cameron should improve both of those things, while you work on improving your reading comprehension.
This post was edited on 2/11/13 at 1:52 pm
Posted by peopleschamp
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 1:54 pm to
There were entire threads defending the offense. Saying there was basically no problem. Miles proved there was a problem. Miles doesn't demote or fire people from a job for no reason. They really have to screw up badly.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 1:59 pm to
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Miles proved there was a problem. Miles doesn't demote or fire people from a job for no reason. They really have to screw up badly.



yep. but the sheep here are in denial. good luck convincing them otherwise.

Posted by Baloo
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Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 2:01 pm to
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bama has won 3 out of the last 4. now that is not talking about the process, playcalling, game and player management. that is talking about RESULTS

You know how many programs have won 3 titles in 4 years since 1950? Two. 1994-97 Nebraska and now Bama. So, unless you're arguing that every single football program short of the two greatest dynasties in the past 60 years are failures, then perhaps we should dial down the RESULTS rhetoric. Since 2005, the time period brought up by knight, LSU has played in three SEC title games, won two SEC titles, and played for two national titles, winning one. Under what standard other than an argument for the best dynasties in the history of college sport is that not a resounding success?

This is what success looks like.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 2:04 pm to
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yep. but the sheep here are in denial. good luck convincing them otherwise


It's like you guys don't know how to read. Point out 1 post in here that says a change at OC wasn't needed or an upgrade.
This post was edited on 2/11/13 at 2:06 pm
Posted by Mayhawman
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Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 2:04 pm to
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wait, you mean it was the players fault that the DB's knew we were running a ton of curls and slants so they squatted on them?
The DBs don't know shite, except a tendency for DnD.
If a DB squats on a hunch, they'll be burnt with 9n in the box as you also claim.
A DB might play a little softer or tighter depending on fear of QB/WR execution and that's what you likely mean.
There were many other patterns thrown to, just not executed well.
Posted by ForeLSU
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 2:06 pm to
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yep. but the sheep here are in denial. good luck convincing them otherwise.


can you provide a list of the posters who have stated that everything was great and a change didn't need to be made, that way we'll know exactly who you're arguing with, because right now it appears to be strawmen....and if you post an emoticon, that will confirm my assumption, so that is fine as well
Posted by theunknownknight
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Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 2:25 pm to
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The strategy is not bad, it's the execution, whether it be play calling or player execution.


so then you're spouting the typical Miles posi tiger defense...











bash the players
Posted by PurpleNGold4Ever
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2009
273 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 2:27 pm to
Is that the best you've got? C'mon man.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 2/11/13 at 2:31 pm to
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so then you're spouting the typical Miles posi tiger defense...











bash the players




There you go again with your bad reading comprehension. I said the execution in either the play calling or player execeution has not been good. A good offensive coordinator can fix those things.

Posted by DontCare
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Member since Apr 2012
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 2:40 pm to
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