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re: Where are all the "it's not the offense it's injuries/execution" posters
Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:04 pm to EarthwormJim
Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:04 pm to EarthwormJim
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That's not all offensive stats, that's a ranking based on yardage. And doesn't really address the post you responded to about Miles' teams setting LSU records for offensive TDs
We've already had a thread on this as well. Nearly every SEC team has broken all-time offensive records since 2005.
Breaking Offensive records says more about the current state of college football as a whole than it does about a specific team.
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:06 pm to Gray Tiger
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Now compare won/loss records. How many of those offense giants have better w/l's than LSU. Enlighten us please.
3rd behind Bama and Florida with Georgia almost even with us.
That speaks more to our defense which doesn't really have anything to do with this thread does it? Carry on.
Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:06 pm to theunknownknight
Again, how many have better win/loss records over
that time span?
that time span?
Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:07 pm to Gray Tiger
Can you read?
Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:09 pm to theunknownknight
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Can you read?
Yes I can read. Just a difference in timing in posts. Don't you understand how this works?
Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:09 pm to theunknownknight
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We've already had a thread on this as well. Nearly every SEC team has broken all-time offensive records since 2005.
Breaking Offensive records says more about the current state of college football as a whole than it does about a specific team.
And again this post does nothing to address that your "adding all offensive stats" comment wasn't true.
This post was edited on 2/11/13 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:10 pm to Gray Tiger
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Yes I can read. Just a difference in timing in posts. Don't you understand how this works?
Yes. And I was responding to someone who asked me a question FIRST. Then I was responding to you. See how that works?
Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:12 pm to EarthwormJim
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And again this post does nothing to address that your "adding all offensive stats" comment wasn't true. And doesn't address were LSU ranks in offensive TDs scored.
The stats I submitted show a direct correlation to offensive efficiency. Touchdowns are the result of multiple factors on the field outside of just offensive efficiency. We've already covered all this before.
Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:15 pm to theunknownknight
Looks like you are getting a little flustered.
Let be see if I understand the situation.
You claim some offensive explosion in th SEC that is leaving LSU behind. Right?
You claim that 10 teams have set new records in offense, right?
But 7 of those teams have a poored wining percentage than LSU does over that span? Right?
Ok I get your point. Offensive fireworks are better in your view than winning?
If that is tgrue I bet you loved the past season with the saints.
Let be see if I understand the situation.
You claim some offensive explosion in th SEC that is leaving LSU behind. Right?
You claim that 10 teams have set new records in offense, right?
But 7 of those teams have a poored wining percentage than LSU does over that span? Right?
Ok I get your point. Offensive fireworks are better in your view than winning?
If that is tgrue I bet you loved the past season with the saints.
Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:19 pm to theunknownknight
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The stats I submitted show a direct correlation to offensive efficiency. Touchdowns are the result of multiple factors on the field outside of just offensive efficiency. We've already covered all this before
In no way does your stats reflect offensive efficiency, only yards per play.
Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:21 pm to theunknownknight
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We've already had a thread on this as well. Nearly every SEC team has broken all-time offensive records since 2005.
Wonderful. And since 2005, LSU has been to three SEC title games and won two. LSU has also appeared in two national title games and won one. Let's list the SEC teams to do each:
Three SEC titles games: Bama, Florida, Georgia, LSU
Two SEC titles: Bama, Florida, LSU
Two BCSCG appearances: Florida, Bama (3), LSU
One national title: Florida (2), Bama (3), Auburn, LSU
So, LSU's lack of offensive output hasn't really hurt the program. I'd like for it to be better, and I do think the big issue is execution (but doesn't that go back to coaching?), but arguing that LSU has been this black hole that's barely been getting by isn't really supported by facts. Even without many yards, LSU's done pretty well in SCORING offense (mainly due to some pretty awesome special teams and defensive scores).
I couldn't care less if we rank 50th in yards gained, so long as we win. I like the move, but I also don't think gaining lots of yards is an end to itself. It's about scoring points and winning games. Which, honestly, we've been pretty good at.
Cam's biggest issues is consistent execution and red zone efficiency. Oh, and having Mettenberger develop some pocket presence.
Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:27 pm to Gray Tiger
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Looks like you are getting a little flustered.
Uh no. I just know how to stay on topic. Wins/Losses have more to do with many factors other than just offensive efficiency...obviously. Touchdowns are the result of more than just offensive efficiency.
And since we are talking about the offense in this thread, I thought I'd focus on the actual driving force of an offense...offensive efficiency.
I can't believe I'm having to defend our average national offensive ranking of 76th in the nation over the last 5 seasons...
What has the rant become?
This post was edited on 2/11/13 at 12:38 pm
Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:27 pm to theunknownknight
quote:Yes, you are undaunted in your attempts to point out some imaginary suckage.
We've already covered all this before.
Too bad you're on the wrong side and like a gump virus.
Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:29 pm to theunknownknight
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What has the rant become?
a place where fans reach conclusions then go find (or create) data to back them up...
Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:33 pm to redfieldk717
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Well, we havent had an above average qb since 08
Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:36 pm to Mayhawman
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Too bad you're on the wrong side and like a gump virus.
Great factual rant response.
Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:36 pm to ForeLSU
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a place where fans reach conclusions then go find (or create) data to back them up...
I blame CFBstats.com for creating all that false data since 2005.
Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:43 pm to theunknownknight
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I blame CFBstats.com for creating all that false data since 2005.
nothing more than raw material from which many things can be created...
Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:44 pm to theunknownknight
I think I can help some of y'all summarize this whole topic pretty easily
Posted on 2/11/13 at 12:47 pm to ForeLSU
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nothing more than raw material from which many things can be created...
Ok, I'll bite. Are you in favor of the Cam Cameron hire? Yes or No
And why?
It sounds like there are alot of goons in here that think the offense is JUST FINE.
ETA: @LSUMike
This post was edited on 2/11/13 at 12:49 pm
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