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re: Where are all the "it's not the offense it's injuries/execution" posters
Posted on 2/11/13 at 9:08 am to ItNeverRains
Posted on 2/11/13 at 9:08 am to ItNeverRains
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So CC will help ZM execute the SS option better? Got it. Only about 50% scheme, but that's is majority of problem.
I'm not saying a heavy dose of pistol can't be effective. I like the idea of RB right behind QB. But any OC who wants us to make ZM a option QB is ridiculous.
While I agree it's was pretty dumb to have Mett give an option look, we ran that play 5 times this year so I wouldn't exactly call it part of the scheme. Our offensive philosophy was run the ball downhill and then throw over the top. That's exaclty the same philosophy and scheme that Cameron is known for.
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I'll even go so far as to say rolling him out if OLine can't protect means we need a different QB, thus different scheme
This makes absolutely zero sense. Again there were a handful of times where we had to roll Mett out. You have to move the pocket if the O-line isn't protecting well. There were games where this was a necessity and the offense benefitted from that. You're acting like every play is either an option or a QB roll out. It sounds like you don't really have a clue what offensive scheme means.
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We need a guy who can adjust what we do on offense when needed, we make NO adjustments to the gameplan in game
Yes we do, although that isn't a shceme issue, that's a play calling issue.
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Our WR do not create separating consistently enough to do what we do.
Sure they do, there were numerous times this season where our receivers were open and we couldn't connect. That's not a scheme issue.
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I absolutely agree execution was huge difference in 2011 vs 2012, but 2011 D/ST were ridiculous an aided a bad, although healthier and more competent offense.
The D/ST helped in 2011, but we were one of the most efficient offenses in the nation. That's what we need to get back to, being efficient.
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Posted on 2/11/13 at 9:08 am to RBWilliams8
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1) no OC was fired. One was demoted and another was transferred,
2) miles didn't just realize this all of the sudden. He made the change from crowton. Krags became ill. Nobody could have predicted that so he sent stud to help out. The Krags/stud combo went 13-1 and had an offense with a pulse. We blew out almost every team we played in one of the toughest schedules we'd seen. The following year, not so much. So miles made a change.
So no, He didn't "finally accept that reality". He's made multiple changes to the offense each and every time we needed it after crowton's downfall.
this. i swear i think a large portion of the LSU fanbase pays absolutely zero attention to anything. They only watch the games to find something to bitch about on here.
"OMG!!! DID YOU GUYS SEE THAT TOSS DIVE!! OMG!! I HATE THAT PLAY SOOOOOO MUCH!!! AAAHHHH!!.....BARBEQUE!!!....HATE MILES!!!"
Posted on 2/11/13 at 9:16 am to Choctaw
It amazes me we have won so many games in the last 4 years without a QB or offense. I worry about the up coming season with having lost most of our defense. I hope I am wrong but with our schedule I am afraid this is going to be a rebuilding year. 
Grey Tiger I am a true tiger fan & was raised in the La. swamps & went to LSU. I live in north Al. now but I am 10 times the Tiger fan u are. I wear my LSU stuff daily, I would like to see u up here & see if u had the balls to do the same. 
:rimshot:
Grey Tiger I am a true tiger fan & was raised in the La. swamps & went to LSU. I live in north Al. now but I am 10 times the Tiger fan u are. I wear my LSU stuff daily, I would like to see u up here & see if u had the balls to do the same. :rimshot: This post was edited on 2/11/13 at 9:24 am
Posted on 2/11/13 at 9:53 am to cajunjj
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It was definitely part of the problem, if you deny that then i feel sorry for you
frick this thread i'm not reading through it but i feel sorry for anyone who thinks it was any "one" thing.
Posted on 2/11/13 at 9:56 am to ItNeverRains
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Since 09'?
clearly our playcalling and management was second to none in that span. It was all injuries!
Posted on 2/11/13 at 10:00 am to EarthwormJim
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The D/ST helped in 2011
better believe they helped. some guy on here made a compariosn with the 2006 squad saying our starting field position was close to the same. what that did not include was
1) points the D scored
2) points the ST scored
3) turnovers that the D caused which gave us more possessions than the 2006 squad among other things.
Posted on 2/11/13 at 10:16 am to cajunjj
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It amazes me we have won so many games in the last 4 years without a QB or offense.
I am certain that there are many things in the world that amaze you.
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I worry about the up coming season with having lost most of our defense.
I am also certain that there a lot of things that worry you.
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I hope I am wrong
No you don't. You are just waiting for LSU to have a disastrous season so you can come in here screaming, "I TOLD YOU SO. I TOLD YOU SO."
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Grey Tiger I am a true tiger fan & was raised in the La. swamps & went to LSU. I live in north Al. now but I am 10 times the Tiger fan u are
I am sure you are if you consider bashing practically every thing LSU or the coaching staff does makes you a "true" LSU fan. Pretending that your constant stream of negativity makes you a "fan" seems like pretty weak justification. But if it works for you, then have at it.
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I would like to see u up here & see if u had the balls to do the same.
I can not imagine any situation where I would spend any time in North Alabama. Or Calcutta either for that matter. I am truly sorry that you are stuck there and I am beginning to understand your negativity now. You want to fit in with the Gumps.
Ok. Whatever.
Posted on 2/11/13 at 10:18 am to Fat Bastard
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clearly our playcalling and management was second to none in that span. It was all injuries!
And ya gotta love the execution part of the excuse
Especially in light of the decision to bench the SEC leader in pass efficiency after 8 games. It was due to poor execution, nothing to do with poor coaching
Posted on 2/11/13 at 10:28 am to cajunjj
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Grey Tiger I am a true tiger fan & was raised in the La. swamps & went to LSU. I live in north Al. now but I am 10 times the Tiger fan u are
I don't understand people trying to prove they are somehow bigger LSU fans than others.
Also, if you have to repeatedly tell someone you are a great fan, you probably aren't. I am good at a lot of things, great at a few, people know because they see it not because I tell them.
Being from the swamps makes you the biggest fan ever though!!! Nobody gives a shite.
Posted on 2/11/13 at 10:37 am to TexasTiger1185
Get outta here with that logic, TT1185.
Posted on 2/11/13 at 10:38 am to redfieldk717
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Because we were that good everywhere else, that team was ridiculously talented minus the qb
Thus, 13-1, SEC Champs, and NC runners up. Makes sense, especially when you consider the off the field problems, the insane SOS, and that LSU got put in the position of having to defeat beat a very good Bama team twice.
This post was edited on 2/11/13 at 10:38 am
Posted on 2/11/13 at 10:44 am to Mayhawman
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2011 is #2 all time in Offensive TDs scored, behind another Miles team, 2007. In fact Miles owns 4/5 top spots in that category.
10 other SEC teams broke all-time offensive records since Les started his tenure at LSU and since 2008 LSU is ranked 10th in the SEC (eta: out of 12 teams) when all offensive stats for those 5 years are totaled.
Do the math and enlighten yourself.
This post was edited on 2/11/13 at 10:45 am
Posted on 2/11/13 at 11:00 am to theunknownknight
quote:So you use other teams accomplishments to diminish LSU's?
10 other SEC teams broke all-time offensive records since Les started his tenure at LSU and since 2008 LSU is ranked 10th in the SEC (eta: out of 12 teams) when all offensive stats for those 5 years are totaled.
I guess if your kid got an A in a class, you respond by telling him "so what, 10 other kids got one too"?
I'm not interested in other teams, unlike you, :theunknowngump:.
Posted on 2/11/13 at 11:22 am to League Champs
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Especially in light of the decision to bench the SEC leader in pass efficiency after 8 games.
he's gone, man. it's time to move on
Posted on 2/11/13 at 11:25 am to Choctaw
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he's gone, man. it's time to move on
he sure is, and a year removed on top of that.Posted on 2/11/13 at 11:33 am to Mayhawman
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So you use other teams accomplishments to diminish LSU's? I guess if your kid got an A in a class, you respond by telling him "so what, 10 other kids got one too"?
No offense but you are making LSU fans look retarded with that horrible analogy.
LSU is not "getting an A" in a vacuum. They are COMPETING for the highest grade in the class. Therefore, what does it matter if LSU's scores go up when 9 of their peers, those peers they compete with DIRECTLY, go up even higher?
Looking at the above, have you considered that maybe something has changed in modern day football that makes comparing to historical averages useless?
Posted on 2/11/13 at 11:35 am to theunknownknight
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when all offensive stats for those 5 years are totaled.
How do you total all offensive stats?
Posted on 2/11/13 at 11:38 am to EarthwormJim
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How do you total all offensive stats?
Total plays by play type divided by total yards by play type over 5 years
Posted on 2/11/13 at 11:41 am to theunknownknight
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Total plays by play type divided by total yards by play type over 5 years
That's not all offensive stats, that's a ranking based on yardage. And doesn't really address the post you responded to about Miles' teams setting LSU records for offensive TDs
This post was edited on 2/11/13 at 11:58 am
Posted on 2/11/13 at 11:55 am to theunknownknight
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10 other SEC teams broke all-time offensive records since Les started his tenure at LSU and since 2008 LSU is ranked 10th in the SEC (eta: out of 12 teams) when all offensive stats for those 5 years are totaled.
Do the math and enlighten yourself.
Now compare won/loss records. How many of those offense giants have better w/l's than LSU.
Enlighten us please.
This post was edited on 2/11/13 at 12:04 pm
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