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re: Where are all the "it's not the offense it's injuries/execution" posters
Posted on 2/10/13 at 1:25 pm to League Champs
Posted on 2/10/13 at 1:25 pm to League Champs
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Firing the OC is proof that Miles finally accepted that reality.
1) no OC was fired. One was demoted and another was transferred,
2) miles didn't just realize this all of the sudden. He made the change from crowton. Krags became ill. Nobody could have predicted that so he sent stud to help out. The Krags/stud combo went 13-1 and had an offense with a pulse. We blew out almost every team we played in one of the toughest schedules we'd seen. The following year, not so much. So miles made a change.
So no, He didn't "finally accept that reality". He's made multiple changes to the offense each and every time we needed it after crowton's downfall.
This post was edited on 2/10/13 at 1:29 pm
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Posted on 2/10/13 at 1:29 pm to ItNeverRains
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Again, I think CC is home run hire, Miles, although slow to make moves, does get it right. I think the future has ridiculous potential.
I just don't understand the "Miles is slow to make moves" crowd.
This post was edited on 2/10/13 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 2/10/13 at 1:31 pm to ItNeverRains
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Glad Miles disagrees with last four posters.
Yeah you would know
Posted on 2/10/13 at 1:32 pm to noonan
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I just don't understand the "Miles is slow you make moves" crowd.
This is the TD scoreboard team that wants people fired and anointed every time we make a big play or else punt. As the head coach of an elite football program, I believe Miles moves at the right pace.
Posted on 2/10/13 at 1:36 pm to RBWilliams8
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no OC was fired. One was demoted and another was transferred,
quote:
to discharge or remove, as from office or service:
Posted on 2/10/13 at 1:46 pm to noonan
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I just don't understand the "Miles is slow you make moves" crowd.
I can agree with this outlook. A coach of course should not act like a fan
This post was edited on 2/10/13 at 1:46 pm
Posted on 2/10/13 at 1:47 pm to whodidthat
quote:
Yeah you would know
Well, if he did agree, there's probably no pressed for a new OC next week.
It's really not that hard
Posted on 2/10/13 at 1:50 pm to ItNeverRains
I get the impression from your original post that you feel the problem was totally "scheme" (though I doubt you truly understand the meaning of the term). The "scheme" isn't going to change, not in the broad sense of the term. We will still be a run heavy "pro style scheme" type of team.
CC is being brought in PRECISELY to improve EXECUTION!
People with low football IQ's like you don't really understand what it is that separates the great OC's from the average to poor ones. It's not as much about the X's and O's as it is about the ability to teach the level of "execution" needed to play championship level football.
Chief doesn't possess some technical football knowledge that other coaches don't know about. He's not some defensive innovator and neither is Nick Saban for that matter.
Their success stems from their ability to assess and evaluate a players talent and abilities and being able to put them in the proper position to succeed. Drilling them and coaching them to always be in the proper position is where execution starts! Their genius is also in being able to drill and coach the players into making the plays that they have been setup to make! Their success isn't due to them having a superior "scheme" to every other football coach.
As a coach, being able to teach EXECUTION is the hardest part of the game. Any human being can watch film or read a book and learn anything he needs to know about schemes and X's and O's. What is HARD to do is to coach a group of kids into EXECUTING whatever scheme or play that you choose.
You really should learn more about the game instead of spending your time starting troll threads!
CC is being brought in PRECISELY to improve EXECUTION!
People with low football IQ's like you don't really understand what it is that separates the great OC's from the average to poor ones. It's not as much about the X's and O's as it is about the ability to teach the level of "execution" needed to play championship level football.
Chief doesn't possess some technical football knowledge that other coaches don't know about. He's not some defensive innovator and neither is Nick Saban for that matter.
Their success stems from their ability to assess and evaluate a players talent and abilities and being able to put them in the proper position to succeed. Drilling them and coaching them to always be in the proper position is where execution starts! Their genius is also in being able to drill and coach the players into making the plays that they have been setup to make! Their success isn't due to them having a superior "scheme" to every other football coach.
As a coach, being able to teach EXECUTION is the hardest part of the game. Any human being can watch film or read a book and learn anything he needs to know about schemes and X's and O's. What is HARD to do is to coach a group of kids into EXECUTING whatever scheme or play that you choose.
You really should learn more about the game instead of spending your time starting troll threads!
Posted on 2/10/13 at 1:53 pm to RBWilliams8
When you are talking with one who doesn't understand the difference between fired and reassigned, you are wasting you time trying to educate them. 
Posted on 2/10/13 at 2:12 pm to League Champs
So that's all you got from that?
So if someone is a painter, gets moved down to strictly dry wall he is fired? No. That's a demotion you stupid frick.
He was "removed" from OC and demoted back to OL coach. They're still paying him so.... You guessed it, he wasn't fired.
Know what you're talking about before you try to boom Someone. I love when idiots try to latch on to the most irrelevant point of a post to try to divert from the fact that they got owned.
That's right. That makes you my bitch now.
So if someone is a painter, gets moved down to strictly dry wall he is fired? No. That's a demotion you stupid frick.
He was "removed" from OC and demoted back to OL coach. They're still paying him so.... You guessed it, he wasn't fired.
Know what you're talking about before you try to boom Someone. I love when idiots try to latch on to the most irrelevant point of a post to try to divert from the fact that they got owned.
That's right. That makes you my bitch now.
This post was edited on 2/10/13 at 4:59 pm
Posted on 2/10/13 at 2:14 pm to redfieldk717
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It was definitely part of the problem, if you deny that then i feel sorry for you
Yeah, you aren't following.
Part and all are quite different. There are a few people who believe it's all execution/injuries and no offensive staff changes were necessary.
Posted on 2/10/13 at 2:14 pm to ItNeverRains
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Where are all the "it's not the offense it's injuries/execution" posters
<---------- Here's one.
Posted on 2/10/13 at 2:46 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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Lonnie4lsu
Did we play football together?
Trying to see if it's the same Lonnie.
Posted on 2/10/13 at 2:53 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I think Miles felt Studs was spread a little thin to devote time to OL execution.
There are a few people who believe it's all execution/injuries and no offensive staff changes were necessary
The injuries and shuffling the OL around also change what you want to do. The run game suffered as well as the pass protection.
Posted on 2/10/13 at 2:54 pm to RBWilliams8
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rbwilliams8
Keep the pimp hand strong.
Having a bitch is like pruning your bushes. You have to keep cutting then down.
@league
RB is right. You lost. All you can do is laugh at his facts?
Posted on 2/10/13 at 2:59 pm to ItNeverRains
Are you saying the offense executed well this year?
Posted on 2/10/13 at 3:08 pm to redfieldk717
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when you have dog shite for qb play, what do you want the coaches to call?
Why haven't they developed any QBs. If you say the QB limits the play calling, game planning, and execusion, the responsibilty returns back to the coaches for not recruting and develping QBs. Either way, it's coaching issue.
Posted on 2/10/13 at 6:27 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:An unfortunate illness was the reason for the need. Injuries/execution was the reson for the performance.
Part and all are quite different. There are a few people who believe it's all execution/injuries and no offensive staff changes were necessary.
Posted on 2/10/13 at 7:47 pm to ItNeverRains
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Since 09'?
did you watch the 2011 season? if all you are going to do is hang your hat on the NCG--oh well.
Having a thinking QB would have helped---you play the hand you are dealt.
If you could observe everything in onjective totality per haps you would see the light of day. Instead, you prefer to sit on your couch and bitch after the fact of "how you would have done things better" yet for all your "knowledge" you really are nothing more than that guy who thinks the 14 year old olympian gymnist "sux cuz she didn't stick the landing", but never actually been the man in the arena. Nope, just a tard with an a-hole and an opinion.
Posted on 2/11/13 at 8:56 am to lsuexpert57
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I get the impression from your original post that you feel the problem was totally "scheme" (though I doubt you truly understand the meaning of the term). The "scheme" isn't going to change, not in the broad sense of the term. We will still be a run heavy "pro style scheme" type of team. CC is being brought in PRECISELY to improve EXECUTION! People with low football IQ's like you don't really understand what it is that separates the great OC's from the average to poor ones. It's not as much about the X's and O's as it is about the ability to teach the level of "execution" needed to play championship level football. Chief doesn't possess some technical football knowledge that other coaches don't know about. He's not some defensive innovator and neither is Nick Saban for that matter. Their success stems from their ability to assess and evaluate a players talent and abilities and being able to put them in the proper position to succeed. Drilling them and coaching them to always be in the proper position is where execution starts! Their genius is also in being able to drill and coach the players into making the plays that they have been setup to make! Their success isn't due to them having a superior "scheme" to every other football coach. As a coach, being able to teach EXECUTION is the hardest part of the game. Any human being can watch film or read a book and learn anything he needs to know about schemes and X's and O's. What is HARD to do is to coach a group of kids into EXECUTING whatever scheme or play that you choose. You really should learn more about the game instead of spending your time starting troll threads
So CC will help ZM execute the SS option better? Got it. Only about 50% scheme, but that's is majority of problem.
I'm not saying a heavy dose of pistol can't be effective. I like the idea of RB right behind QB. But any OC who wants us to make ZM a option QB is ridiculous. I'll even go so far as to say rolling him out if OLine can't protect means we need a different QB, thus different scheme. You guys try so hard to swing for the fence when opinion differs you actually come off foolish.
We need a guy who can adjust what we do on offense when needed, we make NO adjustments to the gameplan in game. Ever. Our WR do not create separating consistently enough to do what we do. I absolutely agree execution was huge difference in 2011 vs 2012, but 2011 D/ST were ridiculous an aided a bad, although healthier and more competent offense.
We have a guy coming who can absolutely do this.
This post was edited on 2/11/13 at 8:58 am
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