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When you hire a 7-5 coach...

Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:53 pm
Posted by colors_of_kings
Tiger Country
Member since Aug 2014
1506 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:53 pm
...that finishes 5th in the big 12, how on God's green earth do you expect him to win in the SEC year in and out?

We're only getting what we got.

Posted by ipodking
#StopTalkingAboutWomensSports
Member since Jun 2008
56302 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:54 pm to
Only fool would ignore all the success Les has brought LSU
Posted by TDcline
American Gardens building 11th flor
Member since Aug 2015
9281 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:54 pm to
He's won on talent alone for years. Just imagine what we could have been during the "golden age" if we had a quality head coach.
Posted by ScottieP
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2004
1933 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 1:59 pm to
Saban only won more than 7 games once at Michigan St before we hired him.

Try again troll!!
Posted by wahootiger
Member since Sep 2010
304 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:02 pm to
Jesus H. Christ.

Is the writing on the walls for Miles? Yes.

Does he deserve to get let go if the same mistakes that happened in the Wisconsin game, and that have been happening over the last few years, continue and we drop games? Yes.

Shocking though it may seem based on the posts of this board, but you can believe those two things to be true without criticizing the man's entire tenure at LSU. He has had a lot of success over the last 10+ years. To dismiss that entirely is to be utterly petulant.

Let me guess, you were one of those guys citing #thedecline after Tennessee '05. Well congrats, you may be finally right. Hope that makes you happy.
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57366 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:02 pm to
The difference is Saban is the GOAT. LSU got confused when they hired Miles and got an actual goat.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84995 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:04 pm to
And yet everyone's favorite replacement got beat by UConn last year.

Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
64752 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

.that finishes 5th in the big 12, how on God's green earth do you expect him to win in the SEC year in and out?

well he finished 3rd twice too. Nick Saban finished 5th or 6th four of his 5 years at Michigan State. He topped out at #2. Blanket statements like these are stupid, bascially
Posted by SaintNTiger
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2014
1290 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

Only fool would ignore all the success Les has brought LSU




And only a bigger fool would ignore the incomprehensible losses by Les to inferior opponents since 2012.
This post was edited on 9/6/16 at 2:07 pm
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
8431 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:09 pm to
7-5 at Oklahoma State was awesome compared to how putrid they were in the decades leading up to his hire.

When Miles got to Stillwater, OSU was coming off their 11th losing season in 12 years. Acting like he didn't do a good job there is foolish.
Posted by TBoy@LSU
Member since Sep 2012
5488 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:10 pm to
13-0 and it was all luck.
Posted by CaliTigerHB
Huntington Beach
Member since Jul 2015
1696 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:11 pm to
The talent alone LSU brings in has more games than Les' coaching has
Posted by OweO
Plaquemine, La
Member since Sep 2009
113970 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:11 pm to
Les had success at Oklahoma St and was able to beat Oklahoma on several occasions. He has obviously had more success at LSU because he has more resources, which is the bases of hiring him.
Posted by TN Bhoy
San Antonio, TX
Member since Apr 2010
60589 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:11 pm to
A. Are you ignoring his entire tenure here?

B. Despite the pumping on here, LSU is not a prestigious program (probably not even top 20). When Miles leaves, we won't be replacing him with a blue-chip guy.
Posted by MrSpock
Member since Sep 2015
4349 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:14 pm to
quote:

The talent alone LSU brings in has more games than Les' coaching has



Since when exactly?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162231 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

He's won on talent alone for years. Just imagine what we could have been during the "golden age" if we had a quality head coach.


Of course you're making the assumption that another coach would have also brought in the same talent.
Posted by colors_of_kings
Tiger Country
Member since Aug 2014
1506 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:15 pm to
I'm not trying to Rustle your Jimmies, I'm actually proud of what Les has done here. I just think the ceiling has been reached. Is it ok that I have an opinion?
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83583 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Of course you're making the assumption that another coach would have also brought in the same talent.


they always make that assumption
Posted by Sahen
Member since Aug 2016
261 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:18 pm to
Lil Nicky went 8-5 his last year, losing to IOWA in the bowl game. Next year Miles won the best. Again, not saying Miles should be retained, but by your definition he has been a better Coach then your God nick Saban in the past
Posted by plance
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
1593 posts
Posted on 9/6/16 at 2:21 pm to
quote:

He's won on talent alone for years. Just imagine what we could have been during the "golden age" if we had a quality head coach.


This is just nonsense…
Players inevitably make the plays, and I do believe LSU needs him gone now, but geez, really?

There's so much that goes into coaching other than what we see for a few hours on a Saturday. And he's done well at most things, to anyone's standards.
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