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re: What will it take to rehire Will “The Pear” Wade?

Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:34 am to
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35606 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:34 am to
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I love Wade, but this is getting ridiculous. Get over it, at least until something concrete ever comes up about him being hired here again.


It would have happened at the end of last season but for Tate and Woodward. They refused to consider the opportunity. That's not conjecture. It happened. Tate was NEVER going to sign off on rehiring Wade because Tate did not trust Wade (which was understandable). The people who made the push to get Wade back to LSU last season then "fixed the glitch"...unless you think Tate just really wanted to go to Rutgers and Landy's comments about Woodward were SOLELY related to football. Again, there is no guarantee Wade would even consider coming back after a year at NC State. But the impediments to a reunion are gone and the desire of the people who could potentially make the reunion happen is still there.

As for those who "can't understand" the adulation, here's why:

In the 80's under Brown LSU basketball was hugely popular. Then the Lester Earl saga happened and the program tanked. Combining that with Joe Dean's cheap nature and LSU was left with Brady as almost their only option who would (a) take the job and (b) at the low low price Dean would pay. The Brady era was a roller coaster. Some great highs with some really low lows. Hell, Brady went to the Final Four then finished last in the SEC West the very next season. That, combine with his acerbic personality, finally got him run in 2008. Then came Johnson. He had a great season with the remnants of Brady's roster. But Johnson (like the current HC) didn't love interacting with the donors and he did not want to get in the mud of AAU recruiting. That led to the first real decline in interest in the program.

Alleva then gave into the pollical pressure of Brown and his supporters by hiring Jones. NO OTHER major program would have even considered hiring Jones except LSU. However, Jone has genuine passion for LSU and he was willing to play in the dirty recruiting slop (unless you think guys like Martin, Mickey, Quarterman, Blakeney, etc just really liked LSU). The problem is Jones couldn't coach. That's why LSU got 4 years of (slightly) above average basketball...culminating in the wasted Simmons season. Alleva then gave Jones an extra year when everyone in the program had basically checked out.

Then Wade was hired. From literally day 1 there was a different energy in the LSU program than anything the program had in the 20+ years since Brown retired. He was able to quickly take LSU from a dumpster fire to competitive in year 1...at a time when there was no transfer portal. In year two LSU had its best regular season in 40 years. Wade brought energy and excitement. But for the 2020 tournament being cancelled, he would have brought LSU to 4 straight NCAA Tournaments...something that had not happen since the Shaq era. Wade's only "sin" was paying players...which is ironic in an era where that is MADATORY. Nonetheless, Wade was fired. Whether you agree or disagree with that, there WAS a justifiable basis for doing so. Then LSU hired McMahon who has somehow managed to combine the low energy of Johnson with the poor coaching ability of Jones. The apathy towards the program is probably at a 50 year high now. NO ONE in town cares. Go to the PMAC. It's empty. Go out in BR on a game night. The game isn't even on TV at the bar/restaurant. I was out in a crowded bar/restaurant the night of the SMU game. There were 50 TVs in the place. NONE had the LSU game on until our party asked the staff to change the channel.

Is Wade the best HC in college basketball? No (though he does have a career .700 winning %). COULD LSU hire a better HC? Maybe. No one saw the great success of Oats or even Golden coming. But what fans do know is Wade can consistently win at LSU...because we've actually seen it happen. Hiring Wade is a "known". Hiring anyone else is an "unknown" and even the best resume isn't a certainty (see Brian Kelly). So in a world where there are no certainties, Wade represents as close to a certainty for LSU as it gets. And given the last nearly 40 years of average to bad basketball, many rational people would happily take the ONE guy who was able to consistently win during that time period.
Posted by bayoubengal014
Member since Dec 2017
244 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:38 am to
Let’s give this year a chance first.
Posted by Jest a game
Member since Aug 2024
2667 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 9:46 am to
Get off this crap. Lsu don't need that lying cheater no where near lsu
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35606 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 10:47 am to
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Get off this crap. Lsu don't need that lying cheater no where near lsu


Good thing Auburn didn't have that mindset...or Houston....or St. John's....or Kentucky....or McNeese....or any of the litany of schools over the course of history who hired "tainted" coaches and went on to have great success.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61009 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:22 am to
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As for those who "can't understand" the adulation, here's why:


We understand what he did, what is beyond understanding is why so many of you think Will Wade is literally the only coach in America that could win here
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68398 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:27 am to
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We understand what he did, what is beyond understanding is why so many of you think Will Wade is literally the only coach in America that could win here


It is the weirdest obsession with a coach or player I've ever seen with any sports team. You'd think he was Nick Saban instead of a sideshow clown who dressed up and handed out free pizzas.
Posted by Stabby
Bristol, TN via W Monroe.
Member since Mar 2025
97 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:31 am to
It’s creepy. I’m starting to think we have a bunch of weirdos on this board.
Posted by S
RIP Wayde
Member since Jan 2007
172251 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:33 am to
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It is the weirdest obsession with a coach or player I've ever seen with any sports team


Its almost up there with your little engine that could dream that McMahon is somehow better.
Posted by jp4lsu
Member since Sep 2016
6769 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 11:59 am to
There is no way in hell WW is coming to LSU. That's hilarious. He has a solid team at NC State. I'm mixed on LSU's position on this. I understand that they were trying to keep LSU from getting the hammer dropped by the NCAA so they told WW to move on. As a coach I liked him and wished they had called the NCAA bluff.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35606 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 1:06 pm to
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what is beyond understanding is why so many of you think Will Wade is literally the only coach in America that could win here


I don't think anyone thinks he's the only coach in America who can win at LSU. It's just that over the course of the last 30 years he's been the only coach in America who has shown he can consistently win AT LSU.

The next Nate Oats, Mark Few, T. J. Otzelberger, etc IS out there. But so is the next Matt McMahon, Lamont Paris, Jerry Stackhouse, etc. Most would rather go with the KNOWN commodity than an unknown.

Maybe the next HC LSU hires will be the best HC in school history. Or he might be the next in a decades long succession of bad to mediocre HCs LSU has to sift through before they find a guy who can at least consistently get LSU to the NCAA Tournament...like the program had to do from 1994-2017. Whether you love him or hate him, Wade had the highest winning % at LSU of any coach in the modern era....by quite a large margin. I'll take the guy who I KNOW can win at LSU over someone who MAYBE can win at LSU.

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It is the weirdest obsession with a coach or player I've ever seen with any sports team.


Some might say that distinction falls upon those who continuously defend and excuse the statistically worst major sport coach in school history over the last 40 years.

Brian Kelly: 34-14 (19-10). "F-him! Get him out of here. I don't care what it costs!"

Matt McMahon: below .300 career winning % vs. major conference opponents. "Well, let's not jump to conclusions just yet. You see. It's not really his fault"
Posted by SaveFarris
Member since Apr 2012
2755 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 2:22 pm to
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In the 80's under Brown LSU basketball was hugely popular. Then the Lester Earl saga happened and the program tanked.


Wade was caught doing Lester Earl things. Was it unreasonable to assume that the same actions would bring about the same results?

You can certainly make the argument that McMahon wasn't/hasn't been the guy, but it is inarguable that Wade dug his own grave and had to be removed for the sake of the program.
Posted by Circle K Beggar
Somewhere in the lower 48
Member since Feb 2011
8752 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 2:26 pm to
I’ve accepted that Wade is never coming back.

However this program desperately needs a change. 14-40 in the SEC is not going to cut it.

We’ll see how conference play goes this year but I’m skeptical to say the least.

If we miss the NCAA tournament (again), McMahon needs to be fired as soon as we are bounced from Nashville.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61009 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 2:41 pm to
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It's just that over the course of the last 30 years he's been the only coach in America who has shown he can consistently win AT LSU.


This just completely false i guarantee you Coach K, Roy Williams, John Calipari, Rick Pitino, Jim Calhoun, Jim Boeheim, Tom Izzo Mark Few, Billy Donovan Dan Hurley Bill Self, Jay Wright Bruce Pearl, Mate Oates just off the top of my head could win consistently at LSU.

Now Wade was the only one that coached at LSU and that’s why you and others are so infatuated with him. John Brady made 4 NCAA in 7 years including a Sweet 16 and culminating in a Final Four, that was his 3rd tournament in 4 years. Wade in 5 years had 4 tournament teams if we count 2020 as a tournament me which I think we would have made it. He was certainly in his way to making LSU a tournament team every year like Brown. But what has gotten lost in this is the 19 team was a top 3 seed, the 21-22 were 8 and 6 seeds, 2020 would have been in that range. That’s great compared to previous 30 years at LSU. It’s not some beyond reproach record overall. LSU could definitely find another coach to do that, it’s just a matter of hiring the right guy, McMahon is not that but there’s no reason to get so hung up on Wade. Love what he did but it’s time to move on.

Posted by Rolo182
Member since Nov 2021
312 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 2:43 pm to
Apparently Bayou Bengal really likes him some pear!
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
35606 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:12 pm to
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This just completely false i guarantee you Coach K, Roy Williams, John Calipari, Rick Pitino, Jim Calhoun, Jim Boeheim, Tom Izzo Mark Few, Billy Donovan Dan Hurley Bill Self, Jay Wright Bruce Pearl, Mate Oates just off the top of my head could win consistently at LSU.


None of those guys have coached at LSU. So while there is every reason to believe they could have if given the opportunity, that's not a 100% certainty because they never actually coached at LSU. Wade did, which means there is actual evidence of him winning AT LSU.

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Now Wade was the only one that coached at LSU and that’s why you and others are so infatuated with him


I don't think it is an infatuation as much as it is a reliance on the known vs. the unknown. You have a guy that consistently won whereas the other guys since Brown didn't. Wade is the ONLY coach in at least 50 years, maybe ever, that was fired despite the majority of the fanbase not wanting that result.

quote:

LSU could definitely find another coach to do that,


They certainly COULD. But there is no guarantee the next coach WOULD. And there is even less of a likelihood LSU would be able to hire a "premiere" proven power conf. winner. Look at Alabama for example. After Sanderson resigned they went through a string of 4 HCs over the course of nearly 30 years before they hit on a guy who has led them to tremendous success. At LSU it took 20 year and 3 coaches after Brown retired just to find a guy who could consistently take the program to the NCAA Tournament. The bottom line is (if the opportunity is there) do you take the guy you already know can win AT LSU? Or do you roll the dice for 3-4 years on a different guy who might be great....or could be another multi-year waste of time?



If the LSU job becomes available I'm not saying Wade should be the only coach considered. But if the decision comes down between Wade and the current flavor of the week "up and comer", I'll take Wade because I already know he can win at LSU.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70606 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:13 pm to
That’s not what happened and Lester Earl admitted to lying about being paid back around 2007.
This post was edited on 1/2/26 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14701 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 3:36 pm to
[quote] what a retarded post. The Wade ship sailed, he’s not coming back[/quote]

Neither is basketball. That ship has sailed. Woody sent it packing
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61009 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:54 pm to
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Neither is basketball. That ship has sailed. Woody sent it packing


Congrats, that’s even more retarded than the previous post is this a contest among Wade cultists to see who can the most ridiculous thing


Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70606 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 4:58 pm to
The irony is priceless
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
61009 posts
Posted on 1/2/26 at 5:05 pm to
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Wade did, which means there is actual evidence of him winning AT LSU.


quote:

don't think it is an infatuation as much as it is a reliance on the known vs. the unknown


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I'll take Wade because I already know he can win at LSU.


What a bizarre, sad and short sighted view. Basically you are selling the program way short. This is conservative*!to the point being counter productive. And it’s 100% infatuation because there was no evidence Wade could win at LSU before he was hired so based on this standard you should have preferred Brady over Wade after he did get to a Final Four

There are no guarantees in anything so yes a new hire could not succeed but I hate to break it to you Wade wouldn’t be guaranteed success either, past performance is no guarantee of future success. Wade was a young up comer so it’s certainly possible to o find another and if he’s given the proper support he could succeed here.
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