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re: What was Ensminger’s relationship with canada?
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:09 pm to Goldrush25
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:09 pm to Goldrush25
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It's incumbent on the HC to make it work IMO.
or get rid of the bad apple
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Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:13 pm to Topwater Trout
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or get rid of the bad apple
Is he a bad apple, or is the organization not strong enough to handle a strong personality?
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:20 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:He ain't gonna resign after one year, bro
or get rid of the bad apple
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:47 pm to Goldrush25
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Is he a bad apple, or is the organization not strong enough to handle a strong personality?
idk you made this comment...
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Canada has clashed on other staffs,
Why should LSU put up with a guy who causes issues on staffs?
Posted on 7/17/18 at 12:54 pm to Topwater Trout
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Why should LSU put up with a guy who causes issues on staffs?
And he's meshed well on others. Did you miss that part?
There's often a price to pay for talent. O thinks there's this perfect world where there's a top OC out there that will run exactly what he wants, it'll be wildly successful and that guy will be easy to work with.
Basically he wants the OC version of Aranda (someone who the previous HC hired BTW). That's very rare to find, and even with Aranda there's a price to pay; he almost makes as much as the HC.
I'd rather he find the guy that's talented and find a way to mesh the personalities. That's part of being a leader. Instead what I think he does is looks for personalities that won't challenge him. He doesn't want more leaders, he wants followers.
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:14 pm to Goldrush25
My biggest knock on Canada, and I was for the hire, is that he refused to attack the middle of the field or intermediate routes. When the defense doesn't have to defend that you play into their hands. If he didn't have confidence in Etling to attack the middle then maybe he wasn't as good at his job of developing his players as he thought.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:24 pm to Goldrush25
Nah he really hasn’t meshed well with others. He was killing it at NC state and was sent packing. Two coaches there and neither wked out
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:25 pm to Topwater Trout
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Why should LSU put up with a guy who causes issues on staffs?
To this day, we don't know how serious any of those "issues" were.
There was a unanimous source that said Canada and Doeren had some disagreements the first season at NC State, but he still got a contract extension and stayed for two more years.
There was the story about him standing up to Bielema about the offense before the Big Ten title game. Bielema relented and they score 70 points on their way to the Rose Bowl.
Canada might be a jerk, but other coaches managed to "put up" with him, often to offensive success.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:26 pm to Goldrush25
Too much smoke to believe that imo. Add other issues at other stops and I believe LSU got a raw deal.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:28 pm to tigers1956
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Heard the players didn't like him
Yeah, you made this up.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:33 pm to TheHat7
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Nah he really hasn’t meshed well with others. He was killing it at NC state and was sent packing. Two coaches there and neither wked out
And Pat Narduzzi had nothing but good things to say about him. He was at Indiana for 6 years and N. Illinois for 3.
I'm not saying that he would've been at LSU for very long but there's evidence that he can work well for the right coach.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:34 pm to Goldrush25
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or is the organization not strong enough to handle a strong personality?
You don't think Aranda has a strong personality?
Posted on 7/17/18 at 1:35 pm to Goldrush25
But if the HC wants that brotherly atmosphere and feels like he has someone already on staff who can do a better job, while also providing that atmosphere, then it's the right choice to admit you made a mistake, then proceed to make the moves you feel will bring your team success.
If it works then you made the correct move. If it doesn't, you have to ride it out and probably suffer because of it. I don't think he will hire another OC while at LSU, unless they have success and they move on eventually.
I personally think he did the right thing. The players also believe it and that's what really matters.
If it works then you made the correct move. If it doesn't, you have to ride it out and probably suffer because of it. I don't think he will hire another OC while at LSU, unless they have success and they move on eventually.
I personally think he did the right thing. The players also believe it and that's what really matters.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 2:17 pm to BayouBengal99
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But if the HC wants that brotherly atmosphere and feels like he has someone already on staff who can do a better job, while also providing that atmosphere, then it's the right choice to admit you made a mistake, then proceed to make the moves you feel will bring your team success.
Let's face it. If Canada could run the offense Orgeron wanted him to run, he'd probably still be here.
Orgeron has done this before. He canned Noel Mazzone after one year at Ole Miss, then hired Dan Werner, who was one of his boys from the Miami days.
He's still hung up on USC and 50/50 balance. Nothing wrong with that, but why did he bother with Canada, after telling us he had learned better after all these years? It seems evident that he's uncomfortable trying anything different.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 2:19 pm to nvasil1
Aranda couldn't stand him. That's what mattered.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 2:23 pm to tigerMike
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Aranda couldn't stand him. That's what mattered
I've seen that posted, but don't know how true it is, but if the rest of the crew is rowing one direction and one "douche canoe" (new rant pet term) is rowing the opposite direction, you have to cut bait.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 4:03 pm to BayouBengals18
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Yeah, you made this up.
I heard what he said about a player and if the other players knew it they hated the dumbass...and the fans would also
Posted on 7/17/18 at 4:06 pm to Goldrush25
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And Pat Narduzzi had nothing but good things to say about him. He was at Indiana for 6 years and N. Illinois for 3.
You do realize most coaches don't air any dirty laundry about other coaches right? He has a reputation of being an arse and that usually doesn't follow guys that are easy to work with.
Posted on 7/17/18 at 5:08 pm to Topwater Trout
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You do realize most coaches don't air any dirty laundry about other coaches right? He has a reputation of being an arse and that usually doesn't follow guys that are easy to work with.
I never said he was easy to work with. But there’s a quote that says don’t wish things were easier, wish you were better.
Man, O and Alleva are two peas in a pod. Both want the easy way out of doing their jobs instead of putting in some work and doing what’s best for the team.
This post was edited on 7/17/18 at 5:10 pm
Posted on 7/17/18 at 5:40 pm to Goldrush25
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Is he a bad apple, or is the organization not strong enough to handle a strong personality?
Too many chiefs...
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