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re: What was coach o supposed to do here

Posted on 11/17/20 at 10:14 am to
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
32718 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 10:14 am to
I added a part to my last message that I feel strongly about .thoughts?
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
32718 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 10:28 am to
Well the other day I posted on there and when i posted ,i made sure to say that i was posting about a topic to have a serious discussion about the florida team this year and just what I saw when I watched.
I couldnt even get a conversation going because that dude harry rex vonner was so pissed about me saying the trolling got out of hand .
Dude was pissed because he thought I just said that because lsu sucks this year.

That dudes life is trolling, there are people over there that put time and effort into trolling. Why cant we have a board for real discussions about sec sports. I would love to moderate it. Have two boards one for talking shite,and one for serious discussion..

I mean the talk in the post i saw the other day was riveting
Stuff.

Subject was ...hey lsu
Message was ..frick you * cheaters
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
27241 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 10:31 am to
quote:


Subject was ...hey lsu
Message was ..frick you * cheater


And to think, the OT was supposed to be the board where posters abandoned all hope.

The SECR is toxic.
Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21771 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 10:40 am to
quote:


I dont get triggered often but I can only stand so much I'm melting and triggered and would love love to fight one of them


A thread has been started on the SEC rant if you want to meet them at Sonic.

LINK

Posted by TIGERhype
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2014
1159 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 10:53 am to
In the case of sexual assault allegations, if the DA dismisses case (especially allegations that serious) due to lack of evidence, I would find it hard to believe that the powers to be in athletic department would be able to make a case for kicking a player/student off the team and out of the university based strictly on hearsay.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13091 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 11:08 am to
I am sorry you find that hard to believe, but the university has an independent duty to investigate and weigh the evidence, based on a civil standard, in each of these cases.
Hearsay likely has nothing to do with the decision of the DA or the university.
Inaction by the DA doesn't permit the University to ignore multiple charges of violence.
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10919 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 11:10 am to
quote:

In the case of sexual assault allegations, if the DA dismisses case (especially allegations that serious) due to lack of evidence,


the amount of evidence needed to convict and jail someone is (or at least should be) considerably more than the amount needed to lose an athletic scholarship.

so while there may be plenty enough circumstantial evidence to justify kicking off team or out of school, there may not be enough to lock a kid up.

Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 11:17 am to
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Such decisions do not relieve the institution of its obligations.


If that is the case, what is the standard for finding someone guilty of such behavior? We'll wait.

Posted by TIGERhype
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2014
1159 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 11:27 am to
Look I in know way condone those type actions (if true) All I’m saying is that has to be a hard position to be in to try and make a case against someone and those allegations. I don’t know if the people in AD are trained or have the resources to do an investigation like that. All I’m saying is how many times have you seen where the accuser is found to by completely fabricating story. I just hate that we now live in a society where instead of being innocent until proven guilty has now become the opposite. No way around it this is a terrible look for the school and football program. I hope one way or another that if people are guilty they’re held accountable, and if things are found to be the other way around I hope those people are held accountable.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13091 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 11:37 am to
Why don't you see if you can get your thoughts together enough to pose a proper question?
I'll wait....
Posted by Locoguan0
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2017
7270 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 11:41 am to
Its obvious that these stories are being pushed about by programs like Alabama.
Posted by Dlab2013
Pineville, Luzianna
Member since Jun 2013
9532 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 11:45 am to
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If Coach O followed the school's Title IX processes and procedures for reporting an incident, then he is in the clear. The school and the AD need to take it from there.



He said on OTB this morning every Title IX protocol has been followed since he was named HC....
Posted by TIGERhype
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2014
1159 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 11:46 am to
Wasn’t a question was a statement and my opinion on the situation. No further questions you seem to have it all figured out already.
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13091 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 11:47 am to
The University does not even have to resolve the ultimate issue of exactly what happened in order to comply with its obligation to keep its students safe. It does have an obligation to investigate and there are apparently some real issues about whether this was done in a thorough, even handed manner. And the Univ. can and should take steps to keep suspects away from former victims. Victims must cooperate of course.
These are not undue burdens in light of the risks.
The Guice and Drake Davis cases look especially bad.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
62679 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

Tigerpride18


Get a hold of yourself, woman.
Posted by Murph4HOF
A-T-L-A-N-T-A (that's where I stay)
Member since Sep 2019
18918 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 12:08 pm to
quote:

I dont get triggered often...
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
11405 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 12:19 pm to
You do not understand my question? What is the standard for finding someone guilty of misconduct in this situation?

Still waiting.
Posted by Ag Zwin
Member since Mar 2016
26283 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 12:22 pm to
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4235 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

Its obvious that these stories are being pushed about by programs like Alabama.


I think when Guice got dismissed from Washington for 2 sexual assault cases (one involved strangling a woman), that resulted in The DC media to look into Guice and his history at LSU. My guess somebody at LSU is now leaking stuff to the National media about Guice and of course the case with Davis who was accused of physically beating a woman some 11 times I think and we now know he had kiddie porn in his possession. Somebody not happy with how all this Title IX stuff was handled.

Posted by boogedy
Member since May 2011
419 posts
Posted on 11/17/20 at 12:56 pm to
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Do you kick someone off the team that didnt do anything illegal according to the police


Just to be clear: you mean the DA. The police don't get to make any judgment on whether to prosecute, or whether or not there is or isn't enough evidence.


Police often decide not to arrest people due to lack of probable cause or lack of evidence. DA doesnt decide if every criminal matter goes to court or not. They don't have the time nor manpower, this isnt Mayberry where a crime occurs once a month. Again the ignorance here is huge.
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