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re: What time does JaMarr receive his Biletnikoff today?

Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:07 am to
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:07 am to
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he has a Heisman finalist throwing him the ball


Burrow had 439 pass attempts.

Hurts had 309 and also rushed for 1,200 yards.


Again, Chase should win, but if come to grips with the fact that the stats don't show a 1-to-1 comparison, Lamb is a legit contender.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:08 am to
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Lamb is a legit contender.


sure

no one is saying he shouldn't have been a finalist
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:08 am to
They only real cause of concern is that these rewards tend to go to Juniors or Seniors. So I could see Chase getting hurt there.

Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:09 am to
lol, you think voters are gonna take into account who is throwing him the ball?

"well Chase shouldn't get it because Burrow is too good and Lamb only has Hurts throwing to him"

Nobody cares.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:09 am to
But I also don't think it's this runaway thing that LSU fans want to believe.

ETA If Oklahoma threw the ball as much as LSU, I think they're stats would be pretty similar. Again, look at YPC.
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 11:10 am
Posted by MrJimBeam
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:09 am to
Burrow is -50000 to win the Heisman.

I don't think you have anything to worry about.
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:09 am to
Sophomore won it last year.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:10 am to
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But I also don't think it's this runaway thing that LSU fans want to believe.



its not as runaway as Burrow with the Heisman

but again...Chase has the most yards and the most TDs

and he missed a game
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:11 am to
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Lamb is a legit contender.



Lamb is a finalist sure, but Chase bad a better season as was a better WR.

The fact that ole baw threw "highlights" as some measurable that voters would consider shows we are grabbing for straws here in some kind effort to prove Lamb was better.
Posted by theOG
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:11 am to
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lol, you think voters are gonna take into account who is throwing him the ball?

"well Chase shouldn't get it because Burrow is too good and Lamb only has Hurts throwing to him"

Nobody cares


If someone can make an argument that Chase's stats aren't even as good as they could have been because a guy as good as Jefferson was taking looks away from him, why can't I make the converse argument that CeeDee's stats could have been even better if he would have had a better throwing QB passing to him?
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:12 am to
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Burrow had 439 pass attempts.

Hurts had 309 and also rushed for 1,200 yards


Ignore my stupidity
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 11:17 am
Posted by CBandits82
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:12 am to
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ETA If Oklahoma threw the ball as much as LSU, I think they're stats would be pretty similar. Again, look at YPC.



No voter would take this into consideration, would be asinine if they did.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:12 am to
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If someone can make an argument that Chase's stats aren't even as good as they could have been because a guy as good as Jefferson was taking looks away from him, why can't I make the converse argument that CeeDee's stats could have been even better if he would have had a better throwing QB passing to him?


...I was making that argument to show how dumb those types of arguments are
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:14 am to
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Sophomore won it last year.


Yea but Jeudy ran away with it. I am not saying it will happen just that they do favor upperclassman. See Delpit.
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:14 am to
maybe
This post was edited on 12/12/19 at 11:16 am
Posted by nitwit
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:18 am to
SEC Office says the award will go to Bo Nix.
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:21 am to
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:24 am to
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No voter would take this into consideration, would be asinine if they did.


Why would it be asinine? Is this the best receiver or the most receiving stats award?


Lamb caught 26% of Hurts passes. Give Hurts the same number of completions as Burrow, that would come to around 89 catches. At 20.8 yards per catch, that's 1,849 yards. TD's.........take a guess.

You could adjust all of that by completion percentage comparisons, but Lamb wouldn't be a dumb choice.


Posted by Lsuhoohoo
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:25 am to
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Cee Dee is a media darling and weirdly more of a household name although Chase had the better season. Don’t be surprised if Chase is robbed.


Kind of agree. These awards usually go to the biggest names who are pushed as the front runners through the whole season. I don't think Chase is a household name yet as he really started to explode late in the year.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 12/12/19 at 11:27 am to
By pass attempts, Lamb caught 18% of Hurt's attempts, adjust to Burrow's attempts, comes out to 82 catches, 1,713 yards.
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