re: What specifically is your beef with Coach E's offense?

No creativity and sometimes terrible play calling

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Army shut down OU...teams don't get up for everyone in college

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Army shut down ou by having the ball for 44 minutes. Oklahoma had 3 3rd down attempts.
We were 94th in the country in offensive tds per game in week 11.
Stop acting like the shite offense was a few isolated games against very talented teams.

Army top was 44 minutes to OU 15.

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after trying to spread the field...we never went 4 wr that I know of but we definitely tried 3wr sets in the first ha

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So not spreading the field. We have been so ingrained with ball control power run games for a decade that 3 wr is considered spread.

I do t understand how fans can’t recognize the importance of Oline execution.If LSU had a legit Oline this year they would have been in the playoff

With the exception of Murray (recruited initially by aTm) we have higher rated guys all over the field. Our Wr’s are definitely more physically gifted, our O Line were higher recruits.

I’m not saying our offense is oklahoma’s, I’m saying with unpredictability and sound offensive concepts in a passing game, we can compete with everyone

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so you are saying the reason why DA offense looked so good is our OFFENSE kept the ball away from UCF...right??

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Dave Aranda's defense was 22nd in the country in yards per play allowed.

I'm not sure you really want to do this with him. Those are good/great numbers.

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We had like the #4 ranked OL in 2016 and Ensminger still got blanked by Alabama at home.

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I wonder what bamas was ranked? it was 0-0 in the 4th quarter

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so you are saying the reason why DA offense looked so good is our OFFENSE kept the ball away from UCF...right??

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Are you joking?

Yes TOP helps a defense tremendously.


We actually attacked the secondary after we had 17 rush attempts for 2.4 ypc.

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GumboPot

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There seems to be a lot of people on this board that hate the scheme that Coach E has implemented here at LSU. I have to say, I don't have an issue with it. It works. I believe its a good combination of run pass and despite Justin Jefferson getting most of the receiving yards this year it's an offense that will allow Burrow to spread the ball around.

If I had to nit pic my biggest beef with Coach E is the play calling in certain situations. For example, why did we try to run off tackle against UCF's defense so many times. UCF's defensive strength was their speed on the edge. Given the fact that Brossette and CEH are probably the slowest east/west RBs in the SEC I would rarely run off tackle unless UCF's defense was aligned and leaning toward the A gap.

With that said, I don't have an issue with the offensive scheme per se. However I do have an issue with play calling and offensive adjustments at times. But as a avid Saints fan I can say I have the same issue with Sean Payton's play calling too and Sean is considered an offensive genius. There are times when I think Sean Payton is just getting too cute and needs to run instead of pass. The nice thing about Sean there are a lot of times were he admits he should have just ran the ball. But he usually has a reason, "we just wanted to experiment there; we saw something on the prior defensive alignments; etc., etc."

As far as Coach O and E, IMO they need work on helping the offense recolonize game time situations better where the mistakes that bog this offense down are eliminated. I believe that will come as continuity is developed year over year at each offensive position especially at the QB position.

IMO Coach E's offensive scheme is fine. Ironically those off tackle play calls that went for zero to negative yardage this year will go for positive gains next year with a speedier back like John Emery coming in next year.

With new talent and offensive player continuity from this year to next Coach E will silence the critics next season.

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Nick Saban taught Jimbo something at LSU with Skyler Green. The kid didn't, "know," Jimbo's offense and wasn't playing. Saban said eff it. Teach him one play and then run that play when he's in there. Then teach him another, so on and so forth.

Jamarr Chase was looked at like he had gamebreaking ability to help this team and program from Day 1 on campus. But Ensminger's dependence of heavy option route usage in the passing game meant that Chase's Day 1 physical capabilities weren't enough to help the program since his understanding of coverages wasn't advanced enough compared to his skill to see the field in situations where he was a primary read until very late in the year.

This is bullshite. If a skill kid like that can't get on the field because he can't understand your system, then you don't have enough plays built in for a talent like that-which you should-or the system is too complicated at that spot to truly utilize the entire spectrum of talent on your team.

Instead, we played physically weaker, inconsistent players who understood the scheme (Derek Dillon) who at times got manhandled at the line by physical secondaries, which we will routinely see in the SEC.

This resulted-twice-in pick 6's on edge throws this year (on the road at UF in a one point 4th quarter game and the Fiesta Bowl early during a wild start for UCF).

On the part of the coordinator, this is either inexperience or poor coaching. You have to undertand your kid's strengths and weaknesses. Not only with respect to your system and scheme, but against what the defense is trying to do.

This is further expressed early on by not recognizing the physical play-if not outright repeated muggings-by the UCF Secondary on the Edge at the Line of Scrimmage and the 5-yard buffer zone on passing plays.

When you see this being done, you immediately go over the top. Period.

It took Ensminger an entire quarter to call the go's and streak routes to take the top off of the Defense. When he did, it resulted in TD's. To his credit we continued to attack, but we won't always have the luxury of an outclassed Secondary like versus UCF. We have to be quicker to recognize what's going on on the field and react to it with playcalling using the right personnel.

I also think there's a lack of awareness on Ensminger's part regarding our strengths and weaknesses in the running game. We ran East/West repeatedly with little-to-no success and we did that often throughout the year. Our strength was getting north/south ASAP. The Fiesta Bowl is another example. We should've rarely-if ever-called a run off the C-Gap. The run game should've been in a telephone booth for 60 minutes.

Instead, time and again we tried to get to the edge against a team whose strength was speed and whose weakness was size. Again, this points to a lack of understanding or awareness in what's going on. We all saw the East/West runs failing due to numbers on the edge of beating 1-on-1's out there. We all saw consistent 4-6 yard inside North/South Runs. Yet we continued to try East/West to our detriment.

This just screams poor feel for the game and a lack of ability to take what the D gives you.

Not to pile on, but we were absolute trash in the Red Zone. All year long. We stayed that way in the Fiesta Bowl. We've got to get better there. Cole Tracy was a one-year lease. We need to score TD's at a much higher rate. We're too good not to. I blame that on playcalling and bad feel for the game.

Lastly, we have zero idea how to combat heavy pass-rush. We are no more advanced in our thinking there than Les Miles. Two-man pass routes on deep drops versus Dime or Dime+ looks is ridiculous. Max Protection is a relic that belongs in our rear view mirror. Not our playbook.

Look at the Saints versus the Steelers. Pittsburgh couldn't run it and combatted a heavy NOLA pass-rush by going 5-wides and going to the quick hitters. Slants. Boundary screens, tunnel screens, etc. When we walked the corners up, they went deep drop and threw it over the top.

Max protect is yet another sign that Ensminger is very limited and very antiquated in his understanding of how to make a Defense pay for sending the dogs on a fire. Which was my worry all along.

I'm happy with the season, but Ensminger showed me nothing that supports the idea that he should remain OC.

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do t understand how fans can’t recognize the importance of Oline execution.If LSU had a legit Oline this year they would have been in the playoff

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Really?

You know Clemson hung 500+ yards on Alabama twice, and they didn't have but one OL guy get drafted from either of those teams?