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What I think happened when Tyrann Mathieu went to McNeese
Posted on 8/19/12 at 8:13 am
Posted on 8/19/12 at 8:13 am
Because of criticism McNeese got for talking to Tyrann Mathieu I feel compelled to type what I think happened when TM went to McNeese. I think he went there thinking it was just a matter of him showing up and McNeese saying "we will take you." But I don't think that happened. I think what happened when he got there is that head coach Matt Viator was non-committal and took a "we need to both make sure we really want to do this" approach.
I say that because of feedback I got from former McNeese beat reporter Gary Laney (now with GeauxNation and who goes by "McBeat" on the McNeese Delphi board as well as some others). Someone had posted an article including a quote Gary got from Coach Viator (LINK ... ate-source). The quote I saw that made me think what I think is:
After reading that I posted the following:
Shortly thereafter Gary responded to my post by writing:
Now, there's some message board stuff there and message boards contain a lot of unreliable information. But it's confirmed as a belief shared by a reporter who has a good, long standing relationship with coach Viator and who interviewed him shortly after the meeting.
I say that because of feedback I got from former McNeese beat reporter Gary Laney (now with GeauxNation and who goes by "McBeat" on the McNeese Delphi board as well as some others). Someone had posted an article including a quote Gary got from Coach Viator (LINK ... ate-source). The quote I saw that made me think what I think is:
quote:
Mathieu did visit McNeese State on Friday night, Cowboys coach Matt Viator told GeauxNation's Gary Laney. However, Mathieu left without a commitment.
"It's very important for both us and Tyrann to make the right decision and Tyrann agreed," Viator said. "It was a long day. We both needed to back off a bit and make the best decision. Especially him. He needs to catch his breath and make sure he makes the right decision."
After reading that I posted the following:
quote:
From the quotes McBeat got from Coach Viator I got the impression that Coach Viator did not give him the "we will take you" response he and those close to him may have expected. I think Coach Viator had a "we both really have to think about whether or not we want to do this" type of attitude.
Shortly thereafter Gary responded to my post by writing:
quote:
I think what you gathered about Matt's handling of this is pretty spot on.
Now, there's some message board stuff there and message boards contain a lot of unreliable information. But it's confirmed as a belief shared by a reporter who has a good, long standing relationship with coach Viator and who interviewed him shortly after the meeting.
This post was edited on 8/19/12 at 8:17 am
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Posted on 8/19/12 at 8:15 am to JohnStOnge
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I think he went there thinking it was just a matter of him showing up and McNeese saying "we will take you."
no. T.M. played high school ball for 4 years. He had no interest in playing for 2 more.
sorry, man.
Posted on 8/19/12 at 8:16 am to JohnStOnge
That's pretty hard to believe.Tyrann is a take no matter what,if Viator is interested in winning games
Posted on 8/19/12 at 8:17 am to JohnStOnge
another example of why viator is dumb, why wouldnt you roll out the red carpet for a guy like this 
moron
moronThis post was edited on 8/19/12 at 8:20 am
Posted on 8/19/12 at 8:19 am to JohnStOnge
quote:
Now, there's some message board stuff there and message boards contain a lot of unreliable information.
Like this post with you making shite up trying to connect the dots.
Posted on 8/19/12 at 8:20 am to JohnStOnge
I think TM felt he needed to go there as a process for deciding his next step. He and his family may have felt that McNeese did not have the support network that was needed there.
Maybe they also finally had someone convince them around that time that TM needed to be in some kind of facility and not worrying about football.
Maybe they also finally had someone convince them around that time that TM needed to be in some kind of facility and not worrying about football.
Posted on 8/19/12 at 8:20 am to JohnStOnge
The knee jerk reaction was for the kid to go play football. Everyone knew the best thing for him was to enter rehab to try and cure his dependency on illicit drugs. No one wanted to take on the train wreck that had become Tyrann Mathieu to watch it de-rail in front of their eyes. The kid needs help and hopefully he gets it.
Posted on 8/19/12 at 8:26 am to JohnStOnge
First of all, it's done. He's not playing at McNeese. Let's move on.
Second, take this at face value, but I was told by McNeese football player friends of mine that he was offered and in. Furthermore, my neighbor, a music prof. at McNeese, informed me and my girlfriend (also a mcneese prof) that TM was enrolled in his "History of Rock N Roll" course this fall. This guy generally keeps to himself and is not, by any means, a football fan so I don't see why he'd lie.
I'm aware that this is all hearsay and you won't believe me, just saying it looks more like TM was in and getting cold feet than Viator thinking he may not want to take him.
Second, take this at face value, but I was told by McNeese football player friends of mine that he was offered and in. Furthermore, my neighbor, a music prof. at McNeese, informed me and my girlfriend (also a mcneese prof) that TM was enrolled in his "History of Rock N Roll" course this fall. This guy generally keeps to himself and is not, by any means, a football fan so I don't see why he'd lie.
I'm aware that this is all hearsay and you won't believe me, just saying it looks more like TM was in and getting cold feet than Viator thinking he may not want to take him.
Posted on 8/19/12 at 8:31 am to Guava Jelly
quote:
'm aware that this is all hearsay and you won't believe me,
I believe you Guava, I know that you arent lieing. But it could be that Viator is a giant bag of Douche or LSU told TM7 hey if you go to rehab and get your shite together, you can come back next year.
This post was edited on 8/19/12 at 8:34 am
Posted on 8/19/12 at 8:32 am to JohnStOnge
MSB
Posted on 8/19/12 at 8:44 am to Tiger Nation 84
Well I know for a fact that Viator is a douche. But I think it's more likely that TM either approached LSU and told them that he had a problem he wanted to get taken care of after discussing it with his family. And LSU MAYBE gave him the option to come back.
Moot point now, though.
Moot point now, though.
Posted on 8/19/12 at 8:46 am to tigerdup07
quote:Rules against starting these threads about every "thought that pops into your little head"
What I think
quote:That's why good players don't consider USL either....
no. T.M. played high school ball for 4 years. He had no interest in playing for 2 more.
Posted on 8/19/12 at 8:47 am to Cadello
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That's why good players don't consider USL either....
Posted on 8/19/12 at 8:53 am to JohnStOnge
TM did the right thing . If he doesnt come back next year , he will go into the draft . I am glad he isnt playing and is doing what I consider to be the right thing .
Posted on 8/19/12 at 9:02 am to tigerdup07
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tigerdup07
Posted on 8/19/12 at 9:13 am to Cadello
i am first and foremost a tiger fan. however, i have absolutely no problem cheering for any collegiate team from the great state of La.
I love to support smaller college schools in La. in their respective conference.
I love the Cajuns.
I love to support smaller college schools in La. in their respective conference.
I love the Cajuns.
Posted on 8/19/12 at 9:28 am to tigerdup07
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Posted by tigerdup07 i am first and foremost a tiger fan. however, i have absolutely no problem cheering for any collegiate team from the great state of La. I love to support smaller college schools in La. in their respective conference. I love the Cajuns.
This!!
Posted on 8/19/12 at 9:44 am to Tiger F@g
I feel like TM was probably completely underwhelmed with their pitiful facilites, and he realized what he was missing out on. He decided he wanted to finish his legacy at The Louisiana State University as a Fightin' Tiger. He went to the Admins, begged for mercy, they told him to go check into rehab, clean up his life and they would talk about taking him back.
now he is taking the bull by the horns, and he is going to go BEASTMODE on the SEC next year in Purple and Gold.
now he is taking the bull by the horns, and he is going to go BEASTMODE on the SEC next year in Purple and Gold.
Posted on 8/19/12 at 9:57 am to JohnStOnge
If all this is true, no wonder Viator is stuck coaching a program like McNeese State. TM is the kind of player who would've single handedly brought a FCS national championship to Lake Charles. He damn near brought one to Baton Rouge.
Posted on 8/19/12 at 10:11 am to JohnStOnge
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What I think happened when Tyrann Mathieu went to McNeese
He took a long look at Lake Charles, turned around and headed back east.
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