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re: What has CEO not done to get us ready for 2018

Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
103654 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:07 pm to
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Peruse this link and get back to me. 

Would it make you feel better if we switched to saying the worst coach since 1918. Or does the worst coach in the last hundred years sound better to you?
Posted by Imber
Member since Sep 2017
17364 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:09 pm to
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Peruse this link and get back to me.


How far do you want me to go back? 1893?

Can you name another HC who put his team through a full contact scrimmage during a weather delay in the middle of a game? You don't even have to have any experience as a player or a coach to know that's a bad idea. You don't even have to understand the rules of the game to know that's just fricking stupid. You can't make this shite up.

Who walks down the hall of the football office beating on a bass drum while his assistant coaches are trying to devise a game plan? Did he feel they didn't have enough of a challenge already? This is the leader of your team.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 12:19 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50501 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:18 pm to
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Peruse this link and get back to me.


Since the implementation of the forward pass, only 3 Ole Miss coaches have a worse winning %. None of them coached more than 10 games.

He may not be the worst ever, but he's in the discussion.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11184 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:19 pm to
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How far do you want me to go back? 1893?

If you're going to tout him as the "worst coach in Ole Miss history" then go back through their entire damn history. There's no need for hyperbole. He was terrible at Ole Miss, so, why make shite up? Because it sounds good?

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Can you name another HC who put his team through a full contact scrimmage during a weather delay in the middle of a game? You don't even have to have any experience as a player or a coach to know that's a bad idea. You don't even have to understand the rules of the game to know that's just fricking stupid. You can't make this shite up.

Where did I ever say he wasn't awful at Ole Miss? But there are like 7 guys on that list who were worse than him.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50501 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:23 pm to
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Where did I ever say he wasn't awful at Ole Miss? But there are like 7 guys on that list who were worse than him.


You think it makes sense to include guys who coached football as a hobby? Don't be dumb bro.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
34651 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:34 pm to
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SOLO-CAM, u are a big pussy! Why don't u come out of the closet & admit u are a Nick Saban ball sucker!Give us all a break!
Man, you sound like a real winner. A real badass.

Are you illiterate or 12?
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 12:35 pm
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11184 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:35 pm to
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Would it make you feel better if we switched to saying the worst coach since 1918

I think he was the worst coach since Harold Drew in 1946, but he MIGHT be tied with Joe Lee Dunn in 1994. That's kind of a toss up. Dunn was 2-6 in the SEC in his only year, which was the same as Ed O's best conference record. But Dunn has a better overall winning percentage than Orgeron (57% vs 40%). Orgeron probably recruited better than Dunn, though. Orgeron's successor had much more immediate success than Dunn's. It's really too close to call in my opinion. I guess I'd take Ed, but that might just be because I'm biased.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
34651 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:39 pm to
I had completely forgot that he was 3-21 in conference. Man that’s bad. Don’t they play Vandy every year?
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 12:46 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
103654 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:42 pm to
I guess we will have to just agree to disagree then. I suppose it's kind of a subjective issue and I don't really like telling someone their opinion is wrong, especially when they are trying to have a rational discussion. IMO, 10 total wins and 3 conference wins is worse than someone who only had a one year stint.

Eta: Punctuation was shite.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 12:44 pm
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
34651 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:45 pm to
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I think he was the worst coach since Harold Drew in 1946, but he MIGHT be tied with Joe Lee Dunn in 1994. That's kind of a toss up. Dunn was 2-6 in the SEC in his only year, which was the same as Ed O's best conference record. But Dunn has a better overall winning percentage than Orgeron (57% vs 40%). Orgeron probably recruited better than Dunn, though. Orgeron's successor had much more immediate success than Dunn's. It's really too close to call in my opinion. I guess I'd take Ed, but that might just be because I'm biased
This is incredible.

We paid 10 million dollars to fire a national championship winning coach to hire a guy that our fan base is arguing whether or not he is the worst coach at Ole Miss in the past century.

Pretty obvious why the program is declining. Guy in charge has no idea what the fuch he’s doing.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50501 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:45 pm to
Ole Miss had 13 different coaches in the first 15 years, and one of those years they didn't even have a coach. Putting those years in the same category, for comparison sake, as 2005-2007 is really, really not very smart.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
103654 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:48 pm to
I agree with you again. I guess my point is the guy isn't being a dick about like some of the O guys and I can appreciate that.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50501 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 12:50 pm to
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I agree with you again. I guess my point is the guy isn't being a dick about like some of the O guys and I can appreciate that


Nah he's just applying faulty logic to "worst coach". Some of the guys on the list in the earliest years can hardly be considered a coach at all, much less an actual football coach.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11184 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:11 pm to
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O guys

I'm not really an "O guy." I'm more of a hope an pray/wait and see guy and am prone to be overly optimistic.

I do get tired of people rehashing the same dumb shite over and over and try to speak up when I disagree with it. We can agree to disagree, but the "worst coach in Ole Miss history" is just more clever and cute than historically accurate.

I'm pretty sure I called TigerCliff777 (or whatever that Destin baw's name was) and some of those other idiots out this week for saying dumb pro-O shite.
Posted by whitefoot
Franklin, TN
Member since Aug 2006
11184 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:14 pm to
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Nah he's just applying faulty logic to "worst coach".

Or you're just throwing around hyperbole. Either way, I agree he was awful at Ole Miss.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50501 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:26 pm to
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Or you're just throwing around hyperbole. Either way, I agree he was awful at Ole Miss.


A .285 winning percentage is the 3rd worst among all Ole Miss coaches in the forward pass era. It's the 2bd worst among Ole Miss coaches who coached at least 10 games of any era.

So, to say he's in the discussion of worst Ole Miss coach of all time is not hyperbole. It's fact.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 1:28 pm
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:29 pm to
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would take CEO right now with what I have seen over 90% of the coaches in the country.


Jesus Christ.

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What I am really saying is that I am pulling for this Louisiana man to be a winner at LSU.


Oh, I get it now.
This post was edited on 6/12/18 at 1:31 pm
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62212 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 1:49 pm to
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If you're going to tout him as the "worst coach in Ole Miss history" then go back through their entire damn history. There's no need for hyperbole.


What a sad rant. Just shows you the extremes that O sycophants will go to in order to defend him.

Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 3:19 pm to
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You think it makes sense to include guys who coached football as a hobby?


Why not? When o was at Ole Miss, he coached like it was his hobby.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 6/12/18 at 3:22 pm to
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I'm not really an "O guy."


Yes you are.
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