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re: What-exactly-is wrong with our offense right now?
Posted on 9/30/11 at 12:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 9/30/11 at 12:39 pm to RogerTheShrubber
les was simply going with the more conservative qb and less risky qb imo. JL may have had more upside....but the 2008 interceptions were still in his mind, and affected his play...and Les knew it.....playing lee was a gamble I think Les wasn't willing to take unless forced. Les is oldschool...conservative offense, solid D. It has worked, in the last 30 games, lsu has not lost by or trailed by more than 10 points...and have not lost a game by more than single digits during that period...very few teams can say that....at least the ones that play decent competition.
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Posted on 9/30/11 at 12:40 pm to CantonTiger128
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les was simply going with the more conservative qb and less risky qb imo. JL
Probably.
Posted on 9/30/11 at 12:43 pm to CantonTiger128
quote:JJ was not going to win a game for you. . .but he wasn't going to lose one, either.
les was simply going with the more conservative qb and less risky qb imo.
Les viewed Lee as boom/bust. He saw him as somebody who will win and lose games.
Posted on 9/30/11 at 12:44 pm to Roaad
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Les viewed Lee as boom/bust. He saw him as somebody who will win and lose games
Yep.
But now I think he knows Lee has molded into more reward than risk.
Posted on 9/30/11 at 12:47 pm to MandevilleLSUTiger
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But now I think he knows Lee has molded into more reward than risk.
I want to believe this but I worry that he still views JJ as the best QB. The way JL has played so far this year his leash should be twice as long as JJ's ever was.
Posted on 9/30/11 at 12:48 pm to GFunk
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GFunk
nice try, Sabans AliasThis post was edited on 9/30/11 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 9/30/11 at 12:58 pm to CantonTiger128
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You have lied about stats
I'll give links.
2010 3rd conv vs FBS (I-A) 39.18
2011 3rd conv vs FBS (I-A) 41.86
There's plenty more where that came from, like '11 has 20yds less Total O ypg than '10 vs FBS or AQ teams (forget).
I'm not tootin JJ's horn just tempering the expectations since we haven't faced a very good D yet and so far 25% of the schedule consists of FCS.
Best give your 30% link so as not to look too foolish.
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:11 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I only say e coaches have a better idea who should start than a ranter who likely has never worn a jock or tell you about a Y cross is and thinks I mispelled Elmo when posting about read.
Mayhaw is one of those who believe that if Les thought JJ should start, then by God JJ is better no matter what evidence you show to the contrary.
quote:I call BS.
He has to put down one to raise another.
I support both QBs and and often say you don't have to hate one to like the other.
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:14 pm to GFunk
more depth at qb is a good thing. the chances are
jl will get nicked in sec games....he turned an ankle in the only sack in nsu game.
jj gives another componet for opposing coaches to
prepare for ...like the read on defense in tennesse game last year jj ran for longest
td run in lsu history.
if where able to make it to sec championship game
our depth at qb could be the difference. after
stretch of sec games off-line will be beat down
and qb will be hit a lot more than early season.
jl will get nicked in sec games....he turned an ankle in the only sack in nsu game.
jj gives another componet for opposing coaches to
prepare for ...like the read on defense in tennesse game last year jj ran for longest
td run in lsu history.
if where able to make it to sec championship game
our depth at qb could be the difference. after
stretch of sec games off-line will be beat down
and qb will be hit a lot more than early season.
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:19 pm to King Joey
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I think a major factor in Miles' handling of this situation will be his view of the longterm consequences of valuing his players and standing up for them. It seems to me that he believes that risking short term consequences in order to do "what's right" by his team or his players is worth the long term payoff in terms of respect, discipline, program building, etc.
I don't know anything about how one values or weighs such considerations, but his words and his actions suggest that he does. And of course I trust him and his results.
This is the best explanation I have read. King Joey delivers.
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:21 pm to ttigermike
quote:You make too much sense fo this discussion.
ttigermike
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:25 pm to King Joey
quote:
There doesn't have to be anything wrong in order to improve upon it. That being said, when it's working well enough, there's no reason to try and improve it unless you are reeeeeeaallly sure it's actually going to be an improvement.
I think a major factor in Miles' handling of this situation will be his view of the longterm consequences of valuing his players and standing up for them. It seems to me that he believes that risking short term consequences in order to do "what's right" by his team or his players is worth the long term payoff in terms of respect, discipline, program building, etc.
I don't know anything about how one values or weighs such considerations, but his words and his actions suggest that he does. And of course I trust him and his results.
Kyle Anderson agrees
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:25 pm to GFunk
I think it wouldnt be in the situation like uf last year. If the offense struggles against a defense they may want to get diff looks.
Other than that I want JJ if and injury occurs.
Other than that I want JJ if and injury occurs.
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:30 pm to GFunk
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This post was edited on 9/30/11 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:30 pm to GFunk
Not that I would describe that as an Off. problem, but I certainly agree with you that we do not do that enough, especially with a talent like Peterson out there... he makes a match nightmare for most LB... then again, Miles and Co. are not ignorant, that is something that cetainly help us against Bama... sometimes u have to keep your cards close to your chest, dont play em if u dont need to!!! IMO
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:31 pm to GFunk
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What-exactly-is wrong with our offense right now?
The only thing wrong is it doesn't have a good nickname, like Stud Pony.
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:34 pm to Topwater Trout
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I want to believe this but I worry that he still views JJ as the best QB
Nah, Trout... I feel like Miles sees what we are seeing.. how could he not... Lee is a more natural leader and shows way more poise and command than JJ ever did.... I agree there are times that JJ would give us an edge(scrambling), but... he brings too much downside with it.. JL gives us the best chance to win... IMO
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:43 pm to CantonTiger128
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you lie...the three and outs are down almost 30% from last year.
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Best give your 30% link so as not to look too foolish.
bump for that stat
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:44 pm to lake chuck fan
quote:This offense this year: nothing is wrong with it. I doubt any tinkering will go on; Miles etc have the team at #1/#2 and cruising along at close to 40 pts a game.
What-exactly-is wrong with our offense right now?
Re Jefferson- A, he's being allowed to rejoin the team. I seriously, SERIOUSLY doubt Lee's position as The Man is in any jeopardy; I think a bunch of people are just wanting to panic/overreact etc. B, once he's practiced enough to get his game back, he gives us an experienced backup who's played in big games and won. How exactly that is bad is beyond me. C, inside the 10, he could run read-option plays to give us more advantage running against a packed defense, and that may be necessary (note that WVU "forced" the pass to the TE rather than allow Ware to score).
Posted on 9/30/11 at 1:54 pm to ATLTiger
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we don't throw to the TEs enough. unleash the beast.
too busy throwing down field.
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