re: What-exactly-is wrong with our offense right now?

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5.8ppg more this year vs FBS I believe

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Actually, with JJ leading the way last year in the first four games, LSU scored 106 points. 30 points against the second string NC defense (since poster keeps referring to FBS), 27 points against vandy, 29 points against state, and 20 points against WV...for a total of 106 points and a 26.5 average.

With JL leading the way this year in our first four games (3 top 25, with 1 top 10), LSU has scored a total of 155 points......for a 38.75 average.

A difference of 12.25 points a game....and good enough to be 2nd in the SEC, whereas last year we were at the bottom of the SEC. Of course, poster likes to include the entire season which included a lot of J LEE offense.....but hey, I don't blame him. He doesn't quite get the concept that you need to compare the same timeframe to get a valid comparison.

I think the majority of LSU fans dont care who the QB is as long as there is positive results. Right now things are good so some dont want to change some want improvement because the offense hasn't been lights out. Now the people on here who are dead set on on one QB or the other, well its got alot to do with race, some want JJ cause he is black, some want lee cause he is white. Both of these guys are seniors and can handle the offense, im sure miles will use them correctly, and your just stupid if you think both wont play the rest of the season

Wow... can't believe this made 12 pages when the OP stated the obvious.

Lee has done everything right... on and off the field. He's a Hallmark Hall-of-Fame movie in the making.

Geaux get 'em, General Lee! And thanks for being there when we needed you!

This is all incredibly simple, and both the pro-JJ crowd and the anti-JJ crowd are making way too much of what's going on.

1. JJ is back. The coaches will develop a package of plays that use his particular skills. It won't be much, at least not at first, because JJ was not involved in game prep for the first four games and was limited for the fifth.

2. The fact that they are doing this gives opponents something additional to prepare for.

3. Les may run the JJ package during the Kentucky game, but only at a non-critical time. If this happens, it will increase the amount of attention that opponents need to pay to it during prep. Making the opponents prepare for more possibilities is a good thing.

4. Les will use the JJ package in a game only to the extent that it is executed effectively in practice. Contrary to popular belief, Les does not have some deep love for JJ to the point that playing him is more important than winning football games.

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My concern is with the emotional aspect of JL. If her goes out and throws an interception and gets substituted for JJ, this could destroy his confidence.

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If that destroys his confidence then he will have no shot at the next level. You guys think Lee, a 5th year senior who is leading this team, is mentally unstable. If he is, why should he start?

My point is he is not unstable. It sounds like everyone who mentions his confidence as a concern is projecting their own personal fears on to him. Lee can handle it. I think he'll be OK. I personally do not believe he will crack under some enormous practice pressure or game pressure.

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I think the majority of LSU fans dont care who the QB is as long as there is positive results.

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I feel this is the majority of the fanbase. Les has not gone total stupid overnight. The man knows how to win games. If we are able to win a NC with JJ throwing TD to Lee I couldn't care less.

ETA Seeing that last sentence become a reality would cause this board to have a meltdown of epic size.

cherry picking? dude, you picked games against Ole Miss (which had the worst d in the nation, arkansas, which we sucked btw, and texas a&m, which is non-sec, and jj was still 10-19)....there is no cherry picking. JL has played 4 games....and has improved in each performance.....you can't compare a fricking entire year of data, to 4 sets of data.....obviously, you aren't a business major or student. I find it fricking (fricking) hilarious... that you say if JL can't get the passing game going, then JJ should come in......I know now, you haven't been serious with any of this. There is NO WAY a person with even half a brain would claim JJ is a better passing qb than Lee....face it....LSU has averaged 39 points a game this year to this point...they averaged 26 last year......there is no need to debate anything else...but you go right ahead...btw...still waiting on the first four games of third down conversions. JJ was horrendous last year...you hang your hat on a game against texas a & m, and ole miss.....if it makes you feel better....to me, it makes you look completely ignorant...and i'm sure any reasonably intelligent person would agree.

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1. JJ is back. The coaches will develop a package of plays that use his particular skills. It won't be much, at least not at first, because JJ was not involved in game prep for the first four games and was limited for the fifth.

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On one hand, I don't mind this...

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2. The fact that they are doing this gives opponents something additional to prepare for.

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This is-EXACTLY-what most folks miss when they talk about this being an advantage for us: It gives US something additional to prepare for.

LSU has spent too much time repping on different ineffective crap the past 3 years and none of it worked with any real modicum of success beyond that which could be termed mild.

LSU has an offense that's absolutely working right now. Folks are dogging the things we've done, or rather, the people we've done them against, but we're getting the job done.

In the red-zone. In the run-game. In the pass-game. Period.

Miles' fascination with giving other teams something to prepare for is what gives me pause. Because our team has to prepare for it, and take away from the gameplan in order to prepare this package, as well.

It's been incredibly ineffective and deleterious to our long-term maturation as an offense. To reinsert this fascination of adding yet another moving part to this offense gives us as much of a requirement to rep the stuff in practice as it does the opponent's DC.

I am not a fan. Period, point blank. Get him out there in garbage time tomorrow. Give him a day in the sun, so to speak. Beyond that, blowouts and/or injury.

The reports I've heard re: Mett's development and closing the gap on playbook knowledge are such that I'm almost not happy that JJ came back as a Co-#2.

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JL only played half a game against said FCS.....had he played a full game....his stats would be much better than they are....fyi.

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You know this how?

There are some problems with the passing game, specifically Mr. Lee's passes from what I can tell. That said, some of the "bad" passes may have been intentional, but the Oskie looked perfectly awful. Still, the fact remains that LSU now has a passing game that can be ignored only at the defense's peril. This is the first time in several years that such a claim could be made.