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What does the Rant think of this answer from Coach O?

Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:42 pm
Posted by Prominentwon
LSU, McNeese St. Fan
Member since Jan 2005
93676 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:42 pm
Since the talk of the board was that he didn’t put enough blame or wasn’t mad enough about the defense Saturday.

A lot of posters here thought he should have said something different to the media post game. Here’s his answer and if the people that are still around that were upset over O’s comments, or lack thereof l, I’m curious of your thoughts on his explanation.

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Q. After the game, I think a lot of us were expecting you to be angry about the defensive performance. Right away you were talking about the positives. Why is it important to keep everything in perspective, weigh where you are?



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ED ORGERON: I try to see the feeling of the football team. I knew they were a little disappointed. I think that would have just added fuel to the fire. I thought they needed to be picked up a little bit. To compliment them on a win, not take for granted winning. We've been on some teams, no matter whether they've not played so well, might not have played so well, had a hangover. I don't think we had a hangover. Played well in the first half. They made some plays. I wanted to give them confidence, how much I believe in them.

This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 3:43 pm
Posted by ynlvr
Rocket City
Member since Feb 2009
4583 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:45 pm to
Treats them like his own sons. I'm sure he gives them due correction when and where the time is right. He's building character. Not brow beating it out of them in public.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 3:46 pm
Posted by jcb236
Cut Off, LA
Member since Feb 2010
545 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:47 pm to
I trust his judgment, and I think he knows the team better than I do. I learned that when you beat up on people sometimes it completely backfired. However that statement was in public, and I have to believe that tell the truth Monday was a very serious thing for all the players. I have to think the person who was most upset by the play had to be Arands.

I also think it was such a poor showing that their pride was crushed. I expect Arkansas to be a different game, and I expect the defense to shine.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14379 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:47 pm to
I think it's fine right after the game.

Part of being a HC is reading the mood of the team. If they are beating themselves up, you build them up, correct the mistakes and move on. If they seem satisfied, break a boot off in their arse and get them re-focused.
Posted by kengel2
Team Gun
Member since Mar 2004
30634 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:48 pm to
He's not wrong.

Basically, celebrated winning. He didnt forget the defense didnt play well. I bet practice this week is going to suck for them.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

ED ORGERON: I try to see the feeling of the football team. I knew they were a little disappointed. I think that would have just added fuel to the fire. I thought they needed to be picked up a little bit. To compliment them on a win, not take for granted winning. We've been on some teams, no matter whether they've not played so well, might not have played so well, had a hangover. I don't think we had a hangover. Played well in the first half. They made some plays. I wanted to give them confidence, how much I believe in them.
Agree 100% with Coach O

Just win baby!!!
Posted by michael corleone
baton rouge
Member since Jun 2005
5803 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:51 pm to
Perfect for immediate post game. I bet a dollar that he was on their arse today during “tell the trusty Monday”.
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
20935 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:52 pm to
I am not sure why our culture views negative reinforcement as the only or best way to motivate people. In the long-term, positive reinforcements work much better.

He knows what is best for this team and the players on it and people on TD who think they know are full of $h1t.
Posted by geauxtigers33
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2014
13734 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:52 pm to
It’s the same exact reason but from the opposite angle why in the post game presser after the Bama game he mentioned that there were a lot of things they did wrong and will need to correct.

After Bama he knew his team was going to be at an all time high and he wanted to bring it down a notch to help move on to the next one.
After Ole Miss he knew his team would be down on themselves and he wanted to bring them up to help move on to the next one.

They watched the film and will work to correct the mistakes as they do after every game.



Posted by Hester Carries
Member since Sep 2012
22381 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

Treats them like his own son


He loves more than 4 or 5 of them .
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 5:54 pm
Posted by Dissident Aggressor
Member since Aug 2011
3733 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 3:56 pm to
There is an old saying:
“you can attract a lot more flies with honey than you can with vinegar”
The man has his finger on and knows the pulse of his team...
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56172 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 4:00 pm to
I think Ed is right on. These kids were very embarrassed and disappointed in the result. There was no need to bash on em just to say he did.

As much as I bashed on his theme days. That is where tell the truth Monday comes to play. It is a day where you put your feelings aside, regardless if it was a huge win where you think you played great..or a disappointing performance. It makes the kid feel like it is just another part of the process, not Coach just having a bad day.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56172 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 4:02 pm to
You know what is worse than playing bad and winning? Playing bad and losing.
Posted by LNCHBOX
70448
Member since Jun 2009
84034 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 4:03 pm to
I thought it was interesting compared to how he was in 2017 saying we don't have a kicker and other things.

I like this version of O more than that one.
Posted by LosTigres251
Plano
Member since Mar 2018
1591 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 4:07 pm to
What a coach tells the media is almost always different than what he tells the team. To pay 1 iota to this is wasting a brain cell.
They speak to the media because they have to. They speak to the team,because they get to.
Nothing here, LSu has Arkansas this week. No need to play that psychological card thru the media, you only get 2-3 of these all year.

Come Aggie week, everybody will be a POS. O really wants that one. Its Jimbo, the 7 million dollar man, who will finish 7-5. A million a win, lol.
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 4:17 pm
Posted by Harry Morgan
Member since Sep 2019
9193 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 4:13 pm to
quote:

Perfect for immediate post game. I bet a dollar that he was on their arse today during “tell the trusty Monday”.

This.

It’s probably “get your arse handed to you Monday.”
This post was edited on 11/18/19 at 4:16 pm
Posted by TigerFanatic99
South Bend, Indiana
Member since Jan 2007
27420 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 4:22 pm to
People like to act like CEO is either blind, naive, or just stupid. It's more obvious every day that he is none of the above.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
54457 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 4:27 pm to
Yes Ed has become a very fine beach coach. No problem with his post game speech. Obviously the defense got gashed and they knew why just knock them down further. We are still undefeated and they know we have to be better on defense to win the natty.
Posted by CajunDan
Georgia
Member since Jan 2015
771 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 4:50 pm to
I'm not sure what some people want. Do you want him to publicly throw players under the bus? I know a certain coach from a certain team that does just that... "well, I trusted 'player x' make the smart choice but he just didn't do that". That is not a good look... I'll take Coach O's approach any day and trust that he makes the corrections behind the scenes.
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
21782 posts
Posted on 11/18/19 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

I don't think we had a hangover. Played well in the first half.



I think this is the part people keep forgetting about.

I was honestly really impressed with how the team came out in what some were labeling a potential trap game (I didn’t believe that).

Clearly the staff had them prepared and ready, and the players were focused and executed.


Something happened in the second half that I don’t think is all that uncommon, and the game kind of got away from them on a few series.

I don’t think O bad mouthing them in the post game interview would have accomplished anything, and just don’t think this is a big deal.

Obviously they will address it in film study and practice, so I don’t see this as any kind of problem whatsoever.
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