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re: What do you think was the cause for the arse whooping in the trenches?
Posted on 11/9/15 at 7:02 am to Grim
Posted on 11/9/15 at 7:02 am to Grim
The negative go to is to always blame the head coach and the coaches. We have a great coaching staff.
Our players did not step up and want the game more than Bama. The players on both sides of the ball are pretty even in this game. The 9-6 win was a win because be had great plays all game long. We did not have many great plays, in fact the pass to LF7 over the middle was a great play that our QB missed. That would have been a game changer to build momentum on but we missed it.
Hopefully this is a turning point for our players much like it was to Bama after they lost 9-6.
Our players did not step up and want the game more than Bama. The players on both sides of the ball are pretty even in this game. The 9-6 win was a win because be had great plays all game long. We did not have many great plays, in fact the pass to LF7 over the middle was a great play that our QB missed. That would have been a game changer to build momentum on but we missed it.
Hopefully this is a turning point for our players much like it was to Bama after they lost 9-6.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 7:08 am to Grim
Blaming the coaches for our OL not being able to move their DL on runs OR PASSES makes no sense. We didn't have two of our most important blockers.
Don't be so lazy minded, people. Chavis fricked us. Big time.
Our issues need to be fixed through a new recruiting class, unfortunately.
This season isn't over yet.
Don't be so lazy minded, people. Chavis fricked us. Big time.
Our issues need to be fixed through a new recruiting class, unfortunately.
This season isn't over yet.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 7:09 am to Grim
We did nothing to mitigate their DLine push. We have no screens/slip screens, we threw to LF once out of the backfield, no wide receiver screens like Bama throws, mostly first down runs, there were virtually no run pass options etc.
In short, this Offensive Coordinator and Head Coach went into this game with nothing different than we see in every game. There is no offensive game strategy except to run LF into the middle of 8 and 9 man fronts. And coming off of a bye week that was especially pathetic.
We did nothing to force Bama to defend the entire field. They did everything on both sides of the ball to make us play the entire field especially with their offense. Their run game worked because we had to cover the whole field. Our's didn't because the whole game for their defense was between the tackles.
In short, this Offensive Coordinator and Head Coach went into this game with nothing different than we see in every game. There is no offensive game strategy except to run LF into the middle of 8 and 9 man fronts. And coming off of a bye week that was especially pathetic.
We did nothing to force Bama to defend the entire field. They did everything on both sides of the ball to make us play the entire field especially with their offense. Their run game worked because we had to cover the whole field. Our's didn't because the whole game for their defense was between the tackles.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 7:16 am to BayouRat15
Bama players have a healthy fear of Saban. LSU players do not fear Les!!!
Our team showed no passion and no leadership from the players that I saw.
Our team showed no passion and no leadership from the players that I saw.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 8:35 am to TenTex
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We did nothing to mitigate their DLine push. We have no screens/slip screens, we threw to LF once out of the backfield, no wide receiver screens like Bama throws, mostly first down runs, there were virtually no run pass options etc.
In short, this Offensive Coordinator and Head Coach went into this game with nothing different than we see in every game. There is no offensive game strategy except to run LF into the middle of 8 and 9 man fronts. And coming off of a bye week that was especially pathetic.
We did nothing to force Bama to defend the entire field. They did everything on both sides of the ball to make us play the entire field especially with their offense. Their run game worked because we had to cover the whole field. Our's didn't because the whole game for their defense was between the tackles.
It's easy to whine and moan blaming the coaches. If replacing our coaching staff is the answer, please tell me how many coaching staffs are dominating Bama? Bama is very good and if you beat them you are beating the best in college football. And remember, there are a whole lot of CF teams who feel they can't beat us and their fans complain about their coaches the same way you are..
If you're gonna whine about the coaches you need share what coaches are dominating Bama. That's what you want, right?
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:02 am to Grim
Do you think the LSU coaches have confidence in their offensive linemen, and that they think it is just a matter of time before they execute their blocks and give Fournette an opportunity to beat an LB of DB one on one? At what point in the game do you completely abandon things you have done successfully all season?
It is easy to look back and suggest modifications to the offensive game plan. But what message does that send to the players when you go into the game telling them we don't expect to be successful doing what we've done against all other teams?
As for the defensive line, it was simply a case of being on the field too much. LSU fans knew coming into the season that the depth at DL and LB was not where we wanted it. It was proven in spades against Alabama.
It is easy to look back and suggest modifications to the offensive game plan. But what message does that send to the players when you go into the game telling them we don't expect to be successful doing what we've done against all other teams?
As for the defensive line, it was simply a case of being on the field too much. LSU fans knew coming into the season that the depth at DL and LB was not where we wanted it. It was proven in spades against Alabama.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:14 am to Grim
The defense struggled because the offense kept putting them back on the field so quickly. The defense got stops and negative plays throughout the game. The defense got wore out because the LSU offense was ineffective.
The offense line was in an uphill battle because of the poor playcalling. The bama front didn't respect the pass so safeties and LBs came in hard the whole night. LSU had the ability to move the ball through the air, but chose not to take advantage of it. Harris had time to throw in unpredictable downs and also on many third downs too. While the gameplan will be effective when we are playing less talented groups it will not be effective against peers in talent.
The offense line was in an uphill battle because of the poor playcalling. The bama front didn't respect the pass so safeties and LBs came in hard the whole night. LSU had the ability to move the ball through the air, but chose not to take advantage of it. Harris had time to throw in unpredictable downs and also on many third downs too. While the gameplan will be effective when we are playing less talented groups it will not be effective against peers in talent.
Posted on 11/9/15 at 9:18 am to DEG
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Hey genius, who is responsible for the following?
-Recruiting
-Player Development
-Gameplan for Offense, Defense................and SPECIAL TEAMS.
-Execution of Gameplan
-Adjusting to a failed gameplan
-Hiring coaches that develop players -Hiring coaches that recruit
-Hiring coaches that will adjust to a failing gameplan
-Hiring coaches that respect you (Peveto gently laughs to himself at Miles on the 1st and 15th)
-Above all.....motivating players in 7....or 14 days to play the game of their life...five times i
^^^^*hey deg, I asked you some questions. Where y'at, kid?
Just in case I stumble into your dumb arse again, just want to know what kind of idiot I am dealing with.
Take a stab at it. Hint: there's only one answer.
Holler back.
This post was edited on 11/9/15 at 10:19 am
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:00 pm to dstone12
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Dstone
You didn't answer my question but I have to answer yours? Either way, I'll pander. You're 100% right, coaches control the game plan and all of those aspects. Execution wasn't on your list though, which I think is pretty important. By execution, I mean missed assignments, focus, turnovers. Point being is that while the coaches do own their share of the blame, the players aren't off the hook.
Now, was that worth you getting all fussy?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 12:36 pm to DEG
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You didn't answer my question but I have to answer yours? Either way, I'll pander.
Good for you, kid. Sounds like you are beginning to know your role and do what you are told.
Ps, me calling you out isn't really getting "fussy." Feels better if you thought I was pounding on the keyboard, eh?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 6:27 pm to dstone12
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Good for you, kid. Sounds like you are beginning to know your role and do what you are told. Ps, me calling you out isn't really getting "fussy." Feels better if you thought I was pounding on the keyboard, eh?
Jesus Christ you millennial's and your misguided sense of toughness and entitlement. What a gigantic pussy.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 6:30 pm to Revelator
They were on LF7 before he even got the hand off. They hit him in our backfield.
We have had weaker teams almost beat bama. Yet with a strong team, we are embarrassed. TWICE (1/9/12 and 11/7/15).
??
We have had weaker teams almost beat bama. Yet with a strong team, we are embarrassed. TWICE (1/9/12 and 11/7/15).
??
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:48 pm to Meldedee
Here are possible alternative explanations for the extremely poor performance of the Tigers, particularly the O line. The first is that anyone who has competed in sports, either individually or on a team, knows that most of the time things operate at a normal level, but on occasion, you or your team operate at a world beater level or at a totally incompetent level for no apparent reason. What causes it---who knows.
But since the operating at an incompetent level has occurred several times when playing Alabama, other possibilities come into play. Just as children pick up on and reflect the psyche of their parents, I believe players do similarly with their coaches. I suspect that like Pavlov's dog, Miles is now conditioned to experience brain freeze when playing Alabama, and his players pick up on this and operate with similar brain freeze.
But the most plausible explanation is biochemical shifts mostly dependent on diet. What one eats or drinks will make a major difference in how one feels, thinks and performs. I think the team ate or drank things that effected that in a very negative way. I don't think Alabama was that much stronger due to hgh, deer antler spray, having better S and C, being superior athletes, etc. I think LSU players actually were significantly weaker than usual that night (also NC night on 1/9/12). Put me in charge of the meals of the New England Patriots and I can guarantee some very erratic, sub par performances. Things such as mismatching blood type and certain foods, raising tyramine levels via foods, making sure the players get high levels of gluten, etc would screw up their performance quite a lot.
But since the operating at an incompetent level has occurred several times when playing Alabama, other possibilities come into play. Just as children pick up on and reflect the psyche of their parents, I believe players do similarly with their coaches. I suspect that like Pavlov's dog, Miles is now conditioned to experience brain freeze when playing Alabama, and his players pick up on this and operate with similar brain freeze.
But the most plausible explanation is biochemical shifts mostly dependent on diet. What one eats or drinks will make a major difference in how one feels, thinks and performs. I think the team ate or drank things that effected that in a very negative way. I don't think Alabama was that much stronger due to hgh, deer antler spray, having better S and C, being superior athletes, etc. I think LSU players actually were significantly weaker than usual that night (also NC night on 1/9/12). Put me in charge of the meals of the New England Patriots and I can guarantee some very erratic, sub par performances. Things such as mismatching blood type and certain foods, raising tyramine levels via foods, making sure the players get high levels of gluten, etc would screw up their performance quite a lot.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 7:51 pm to Grim
Before the game Miles body language was so confident. iMO, he thought this one was leaning his way.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:06 pm to StrangeBrew
In my almost 70 years, I have seen many, many less talented, smaller, less experienced teams beat a larger, more experienced, even better team.
Our problem was mostly a lack of imagination on offense. Defense lived on the field due to lack of offensive production.
I have said again and again, no one on offense touched the ball but Harris, Fournette, and Williams had one carry.
We never had Bama off balance all night long. No imagination, same old song.
Our problem was mostly a lack of imagination on offense. Defense lived on the field due to lack of offensive production.
I have said again and again, no one on offense touched the ball but Harris, Fournette, and Williams had one carry.
We never had Bama off balance all night long. No imagination, same old song.
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:17 pm to FreeState
For the offensive line's whipping, it is really tough to start majority of your drives deep in your own territory. Defense knows you are a running team and not willing to take a chance putting the ball in the air with the poor field position.
Ok true, but after watching it again they were also coming off the ball so hard and fast that they were often driving into our Olineman before they got out of their stance. This is why they were blowing us 5 yards back. This was why he blocked the Extra point. They clearly knew the snap count, and we jumping it all night.
Now, when they happens, in high school or NFL, you change it immediately and collect a few 5 yard penalties. Brees Brandy and Manning are Hof at this. Change inflection etc. I know Harris cant do that but frickinf Crowton was in the NFL for years. Tell me how the hell he doesn't know how to fix this?
Ok true, but after watching it again they were also coming off the ball so hard and fast that they were often driving into our Olineman before they got out of their stance. This is why they were blowing us 5 yards back. This was why he blocked the Extra point. They clearly knew the snap count, and we jumping it all night.
Now, when they happens, in high school or NFL, you change it immediately and collect a few 5 yard penalties. Brees Brandy and Manning are Hof at this. Change inflection etc. I know Harris cant do that but frickinf Crowton was in the NFL for years. Tell me how the hell he doesn't know how to fix this?
Posted on 11/10/15 at 8:47 pm to dstone12
Special teams sucked kicking the ball out of bounds is stupid no running play called outside the end when nothing was working between the tackles Poor clock mgt not only this game it has happened every game for years really poor coaching
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