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re: What did Schlabach just say on CFB Live?

Posted on 10/20/11 at 2:49 pm to
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
5430 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 2:49 pm to
quote:


According to some testing websites it only requires a urine test.



link?



Why don't u link your source for the "Blood test" BS you posted before you start demanding links.
Posted by RBWilliams8
Member since Oct 2009
53695 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 2:51 pm to
quote:

According to some testing websites it only requires a urine test.


The test for it here at parklane academy. Then again, it's a small private school so they don't have to spend as much on as many students. The reason most companies do not test for it is because it is more expensive.

No bloodwork needed.
This post was edited on 10/20/11 at 2:52 pm
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5571 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 2:55 pm to
quote:

It can be tested for, but its a seperate test from your standard drug test. I am kind of skeptical on the whole "failing a drug test for synthetic weed"


Not exactly, not a separate "test". Give one sample and several test panels are run on same sample by the lab. Each panel tests for different substances.

Once you pop a positive you have the ability to request (at your own cost) testing of the "b" sample collected at same time but that did not have tests run.

The testing LSU and other sports entities do are often the latest available, often they still run behind the most creative chemicals that can be bought, but eventually they catch up.


Posted by saderade
America's City
Member since Jul 2005
26017 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 2:58 pm to
You can absolutely test for synthetic cannabinoids with a urine test. I have some sheets in my office right now.
Posted by tigerbater
New Orleans, LA
Member since Apr 2011
671 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 3:01 pm to
that's not true. they just have to send the piss off to a lab for the results.
Posted by manwich
You've wanted my
Member since Oct 2008
52682 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 3:04 pm to
quote:

which makes me skeptical about these reports.

i'm skeptical about the extensive knowledge of drug testing on this board.
Posted by GonePecan
Southeast of disorder
Member since Feb 2011
6086 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 3:06 pm to
quote:

i'm skeptical about the extensive knowledge of drug testing on this board.

I'm skeptical about your things about this ah, nevermind.
Posted by LSUJOE75
Member since Sep 2011
194 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 3:11 pm to
Why try to explain something to an idiot?
Posted by 9th life
birmingham
Member since Sep 2009
7310 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 3:13 pm to
quote:

quote:



According to some testing websites it only requires a urine test.



link?





Why don't u link your source for the "Blood test" BS you posted before you start demanding links.


This, you filthy scouse poser.
Posted by ZZTIGERS
Member since Dec 2007
17363 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 3:15 pm to
I've been told on this board, unless Miles says it, then it's not true. Therefore, logic dictates there was no failed drug tests.
Posted by xavierTIGER
Black Pearl
Member since Jan 2007
2203 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 3:20 pm to
Normal urine tests are not capable of measuring JWH-labeled compounds. The drug tests linked all use either gas or liquid chrom/mass spec testing which are compound specific methods. Compound specific tests have a higher rate of false positives and come at a higher cost. They are not used in random drug tests, it would only be used if you suspect a specific compound is present. Blood testing is the only method that is comprehensive and reliable. So yes, technically there are urine tests which can potentially indicate the presence of the compound...but it was easier to type it the way I did for the simpletons on the board.
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
32319 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

He said it is a growing epidemic at LSU and around the country.


WAIT WAIT WAIT! College kids smoke weed!? GTFO!
Posted by clamdip
Rocky Mountain High
Member since Sep 2004
19106 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 3:23 pm to
quote:

Normal urine tests are not capable of measuring JWH-labeled compounds. The drug tests linked all use either gas or liquid chrom/mass spec testing which are compound specific methods. Compound specific tests have a higher rate of false positives and come at a higher cost. They are not used in random drug tests, it would only be used if you suspect a specific compound is present. Blood testing is the only method that is comprehensive and reliable. So yes, technically there are urine tests which can potentially indicate the presence of the compound...but it was easier to type it the way I did for the simpletons on the board.
Posted by FUBAR
USA
Member since Sep 2004
4448 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 3:31 pm to
Ok, back to the original subject of this post: He actually said:

"an LSU official told him that Spice or K2 was a Widespread problem on LSU's campus".

That's a little embarrasing to hear about your school on national tv and I would like to think that it's not acurate either.
Posted by NoGeaux
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
5571 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 3:32 pm to
quote:

Normal urine tests are not capable of measuring JWH-labeled compounds. The drug tests linked all use either gas or liquid chrom/mass spec testing which are compound specific methods. Compound specific tests have a higher rate of false positives and come at a higher cost. They are not used in random drug tests, it would only be used if you suspect a specific compound is present. Blood testing is the only method that is comprehensive and reliable. So yes, technically there are urine tests which can potentially indicate the presence of the compound...but it was easier to type it the way I did for the simpletons on the board.


You are misinformed. LSU random tests are not limited to as you say normal urine tests.

In fact it explicitly states that tests are not limited to "normal" urine tests and furthermore states that they specifically test for synthetic weed.

LSU Drug Policy

In agreement with the policies of Louisiana State University and the NCAA, the LSU Athletic Department expressly prohibits the use, sale, or distribution of any and all illegal substances by its athletes and staff. Comprehensive drug testing procedures may be used by the athletic department including, but not limited to, urinalysis testing, hair sample testing, breathalyzer, etc...Testing protocol includes the following:

1. All illegal drugs.
2. Synthetic Marijuana
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
5430 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

for the simpletons on the board


let me make this real simple for YOU. A lot of people seem to have posted links to refute what you are saying.

So post a LINK or GTFO
Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 3:40 pm to
quote:

Message
Posted by fearthemoomoo
Google "synthetic marijuana drug test", i don't want to look it up at work, but there are companies that claim they can test for it.



Haha, I thought the same thing
Posted by xavierTIGER
Black Pearl
Member since Jan 2007
2203 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 3:53 pm to
quote:

LSU random tests are not limited to as you say normal urine tests.

I never said this.
quote:

furthermore states that they specifically test for synthetic weed.

No, according to your link it says that they CAN test for it.
I don't pretend to know exactly which means of testing the athletic department employs for a given athlete. I do have a better understanding of the types of compounds they would be testing for and therefore, the probability of which specific tests would be routine.
Posted by xavierTIGER
Black Pearl
Member since Jan 2007
2203 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 3:58 pm to
I wasn't sure who "the simpletons" where, but I'd know it by who took offense and responded to that comment. All idiots hate when you call them "idiot".
Posted by MRTigerFan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
5430 posts
Posted on 10/20/11 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

I wasn't sure who "the simpletons" where, but I'd know it by who took offense and responded to that comment. All idiots hate when you call them "idiot".



Sooooo you can't provide a link? That's what I thougt.


BTW, you sound so smart when you type.
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