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re: What did Matt Canada do differently last year to move ball?
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:58 am to RuLSU
Posted on 11/5/18 at 9:58 am to RuLSU
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The pre-snap movement screws with the defense. I read that Saban went to Canada to ask him why he did it before Canada worked at LSU, and Canada told Saban it catches the eye and can cause the defense to hesitate for a split second, giving the offense an advantage
The fact that Saban acknowledged it a good bit before the game and warned his team about the "eye candy" underscores that he felt it could cause trouble for them if they didn't make it a focus.
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Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:01 am to RuLSU
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can cause the defense to hesitate for a split second, giving the offense an advantage.
Canada's shifting and jet sweep stuff makes the defense hesitate which can make them vulnerable to a mistake or a missed tackle
this is the problem in a nutshell with a Steve Ensminger Offense over all. If LSU has a physical advantage the offense will work, but things being equal or we are over matched then there is very little in SE's offense that can make the defense Vulnerable besides great individual plays.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:02 am to Goldrush25
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The pre-snap movement screws with the defense. I read that Saban went to Canada to ask him why he did it before Canada worked at LSU, and Canada told Saban it catches the eye and can cause the defense to hesitate for a split second, giving the offense an advantage
The fact that Saban acknowledged it a good bit before the game and warned his team about the "eye candy" underscores that he felt it could cause trouble for them if they didn't make it a focus.
Hadn't heard this before, and now it makes me even more frustrated that we ran that guy off and replaced him with Ensminger.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:03 am to Goldrush25
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The fact that Saban acknowledged it a good bit before the game and warned his team about the "eye candy" underscores that he felt it could cause trouble for them if they didn't make it a focus.
exactly, he loathes showing weakness yet he acknowledged publicly that the "eye candy" could be problematic if they werent focused
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:05 am to rbdallas
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Also, not TUA as the QB.
How did Tua keep our offense from scoring?
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:07 am to jgriffith
Our game plan vs Bama was actually pretty solid last year, Etling just missed every wide open deep ball.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:07 am to LNCHBOX
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Hadn't heard this before, and now it makes me even more frustrated that we ran that guy off and replaced him with Ensminger.
the real irony in all of this is had they resolved the personality disputes between MC and CEO, somehow still got Burrow to come to LSU and CEO left MC alone to run the offense, we actually had some of the pieces necessary to not only compete with BAMA but quite possibly beat them
with Burrow, MC could have run as close to the Clemson stuff or at the very least some of the tOSU stuff that CEO would allow. but nope
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:08 am to GA Tiger
Who did he have on his oline that is not there now?
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:08 am to supatigah
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the real irony in all of this is had they resolved the personality disputes between MC and CEO, somehow still got Burrow to come to LSU and CEO left MC alone to run the offense, we actually had some of the pieces necessary to not only compete with BAMA but quite possibly beat them
with Burrow, MC could have run as close to the Clemson stuff or at the very least some of the tOSU stuff that CEO would allow. but nope
Stop it, it's too early to get me started drinking on Monday
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:10 am to supatigah
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this is the problem in a nutshell with a Steve Ensminger Offense over all. If LSU has a physical advantage the offense will work, but things being equal or we are over matched then there is very little in SE's offense that can make the defense Vulnerable besides great individual plays.
This and on top of that we don't even execute well.
This post was edited on 11/5/18 at 10:10 am
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:10 am to GA Tiger
Canada is a decent OC. Much better than what we have today.
Somehow Orgeron was pissed he ran so much pre snap motion. Like its not what his offense has done everywhere he's been. It almost makes him look like he hired him based on name and never saw film on his actual schemes.
Somehow Orgeron was pissed he ran so much pre snap motion. Like its not what his offense has done everywhere he's been. It almost makes him look like he hired him based on name and never saw film on his actual schemes.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:11 am to PortCityTiger24
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Our game plan vs Bama was actually pretty solid last year, Etling just missed every wide open deep ball.
it wasn't all Etling, there was one I think Chark misplayed or he scores a TD.
but yeah, we got behind em a good bit last year and just couldn't make the plays. definitely left some points on the field.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:12 am to r2d2
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It almost makes him look like Joe Alleva hired him based on name and CEO never saw film on his actual schemes.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:13 am to Goldrush25
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The fact that Saban acknowledged it a good bit before the game and warned his team about the "eye candy" underscores that he felt it could cause trouble for them if they didn't make it a focus.
Which goes back to what people have been saying since yesterday that it's possible to scheme your way around a talent discrepancy.
The service academies still run option and are able to give more talented teams trouble. Mike Leach calls the wishbone one of the greatest offenses ever, and utilizes its concepts, only with the passing game. He doesn't win with 4 and 5 star talent. Gary Danielson compared Canada's offense last year to an "inverted triple option".
That "eye candy" can buy yourself extra time, no matter how brief, to try and execute what you want. Some will likely whine about it being "gimmicky", but lining up and running or throwing straight into the teeth of defenses with equal or more talent clearly hasn't been working for us.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:14 am to rbdallas
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Also, not TUA as the QB.
WTF does Tua have to do with our offense? Our defense made him look human and gave our offense every shot on Saturday.
When your offense has 11 possessions, 9 ending in punts, 1 ending in a fumble, and 1 ending in a missed field goal, then yeah, the other team's QB is definitely the reason our offense stunk up our own stadium.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:15 am to GA Tiger
Weathersby, clapp, and Ingram.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:15 am to Macavity92
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How did Tua keep our offense from scoring?
not in the scoring...but IN THE NEED TO SCORE MANY MORE POINTS.
yes, we scored "0", but the play calling gets affected.
...not passing the blame on to him, but he does affect the play calling.....many more points needed
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:16 am to GA Tiger
Some of our biggest plays last year came from the wildcat, but we didn't see it one time on Saturday.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:16 am to rbdallas
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not in the scoring...but IN THE NEED TO SCORE MANY MORE POINTS.
yes, we scored "0", but the play calling gets affected
We held them to 16 in the first half without our best defender and with a putrid offense that did nothing. You couldn't ask for much more from the defense.
Posted on 11/5/18 at 10:22 am to LNCHBOX
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We held them to 16 in the first half without our best defender and with a putrid offense that did nothing. You couldn't ask for much more from the defense.
Not to mention we probably could've gotten into halftime only down 9-0 if we don't run a mind-numbing play-action on our own goal line, or keep snapping the ball with 25 seconds left on the play clock.
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