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re: What about playing the other 11 SEC teams each year?
Posted on 9/25/09 at 12:27 pm to Chicken
Posted on 9/25/09 at 12:27 pm to Chicken
It is the only way it should be done. It's only fair. The way it is right now, there are SEC teams that have in conference cubcake schedules while others play a jugernot. LSU and Florida play every year. While Ole Miss and Vandy play every year. The fact of the matter is that unless each team plays every other conference team the season is scewed. Noone would be able to rag on an SEC team for playing a bunch of powder puffs. Of course most of the teams would be dead by the end of the year.
Posted on 9/25/09 at 12:42 pm to texastigerr
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It is the only way it should be done. It's only fair. The way it is right now, there are SEC teams that have in conference cubcake schedules while others play a jugernot. LSU and Florida play every year. While Ole Miss and Vandy play every year. The fact of the matter is that unless each team plays every other conference team the season is scewed. Noone would be able to rag on an SEC team for playing a bunch of powder puffs. Of course most of the teams would be dead by the end of the year.
Like I said in another post, the only ways to make it more equitable without having to play every team in the conference is to establish an SOS point system to be included along with conference record. That way rivalries can be maintained and easy shedules wont be rewarded.
Or........
Place more emphasis on divisional play (best 5 game record and head to head, other conf games count toward tie breakers), Crown true divisional champs to play each other in hotlanta.
The later is the most likey solution.
This post was edited on 9/25/09 at 12:44 pm
Posted on 9/25/09 at 12:57 pm to Chicken
Theoretically, that would be awesome.
Unfortunately, it would kill almost any chance for an SEC team to ever win a NC again. If the SEC were lucky enought to send a team after a season like that to the NC game, we would be sending a survivor , not a team.
Ultimately though, it would be a football fan fantasy come true. Though a lot of our fans would have more to complain about.
Unfortunately, it would kill almost any chance for an SEC team to ever win a NC again. If the SEC were lucky enought to send a team after a season like that to the NC game, we would be sending a survivor , not a team.
Ultimately though, it would be a football fan fantasy come true. Though a lot of our fans would have more to complain about.
Posted on 9/25/09 at 12:57 pm to McChowder
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The later is the most likey solution.
to what problem?
Posted on 9/25/09 at 12:59 pm to Chicken
unless i missed it following a short review, no one has brought up money. we presently play 7 or 8 home games. playing the entire conference reduces our home games to 6 or 7. our ooc home games against cupcakes pays a lot of schollies. we pay ULL what, about $600,000? basically, chicken feed compared to what we gross. that one game (possibly 2) brings in millions of dollars. to keep our athletic budget the same, there would be a very large increase in ticket prices. football funds most, if not all, of the women's sports and the non-revenue men's sports. like it or not, if we want to stay in the top echalon of college sports, we need to bring in the competitive dough.
Posted on 9/25/09 at 1:04 pm to liquid rabbit
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Big 10, Pac-1, Big 12
Whis isn't it the Big 1 in both cases for the big 10 and 12? The pac ten beats up on both of those conferences. Both of those conferences don't have the total quality of teams top to bottom. Why do you make fun of the pac ten?
Posted on 9/25/09 at 1:10 pm to LSUintheNW
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Why do you make fun of the pac ten?
Tradition. If I said the Big 1, Pac-1, Big 1, you'd be confused, wouldn't you? I know I would.
Posted on 9/25/09 at 1:16 pm to liquid rabbit
thats tradition? In the last ten years the so called pac 1 has a winning record against both of those conferences. You should come up with a name for those pussies. You should leave the pac ten alone. All they have done is scheduled more bcs teams (they follow through and beat most of those teams)and had good bowl records. Seems to me the other conferences should take your berating......
Posted on 9/25/09 at 1:19 pm to LSUintheNW
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You should leave the pac ten alone.
Not gonna do it. It's the Pac-1 because there's USC and a bunch of also-rans most seasons in recent history.
And Pete Carroll is a whiny douche.
Posted on 9/25/09 at 1:37 pm to LSU GrandDad
quote:not really...if you raise ticket prices $4 or $5, you would cover the cost of one lost game...$8-$10 increase covers two lost games...13 home games (over two seasons) x $4 increase per ticket = $52 extra dollars per ticket.
there would be a very large increase in ticket prices.
This post was edited on 9/25/09 at 1:41 pm
Posted on 9/25/09 at 1:40 pm to Hot Carl
quote:isn't that what we ask of the basketball teams that make the final 8? or the college baseball teams that go to Omaha?
Congratulations on surviving one of the most brutal regular seasons in CFB history and winning the SEC. Now go beat Texas, USC, and Ohio State in consecutive weeks to win the NC.
Posted on 9/25/09 at 1:40 pm to Chicken
That really covers all the lost money? I'm not being sarcastic-I just don't know.
Posted on 9/25/09 at 1:42 pm to liquid rabbit
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It's the Pac-1 because there's USC and a bunch of also-rans most seasons in recent history
ok....so tell me how many other teams who have won the big 12 or the big ten in the last 9 years. How diverse are those conferences? I believe those ran ins beat the other two conferences arse but you won't mess with them......keep showing your stupidity.
Posted on 9/25/09 at 1:46 pm to LSUintheNW
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LSUintheNW
Dude, chill. Not worth getting your panties in a bunch over it.
Posted on 9/25/09 at 2:00 pm to liquid rabbit
I am good....just trying to understand your logic. You seem like the only tiger fan in the world who doesn't seem to have a better perspective for pac ten football. People were ready to hang themselves after the udub game. There is too much proof for you to have that logic. Yes, SC has dominated that conference. They would dominate everyone of one em except the SEC. You may not know it but SC has shared the pac ten title 3 times this decade. There are other teams that have good records and beat other good teams......they just haven't gotten over the hump and beaten SC when it mattered. They don't deserve half the crap they get and the BIG 1's (sometimes 2's) deserve much more than they get....especially the big 12, they aren't much better than the big 10. So if you wannt to spew that crap fine, so be it, it's your opinion. Just don't try and make the rest of us believe it cause it aint true. I fortunately have lived on the left coast a long time and already know and have known it. btw......if Oregon beats Cal, save your criticism for the end of the year and see how Oregon finishes. We aren't the only ones who have to survive a conference schedule.
Posted on 9/25/09 at 2:01 pm to Chicken
it would make playing a conference championship game (or having divisions) unnecessary at least - and probably silly
It would hurt the revenue for all the teams in the SEC since they would have fewer home money games (the profit per home game for LSU is really sizeable obviously)... and still make for uneven schedules since you would have either 6 or 5 home games in conference per year
Interesting idea but overall I don't think it could work... as a sidebar not all will care about I also don't like that it reduces the likelihood of seeing quality out of conference games between different major conferences
And besides, the whole purpose of conferences going to 12 teams was to get a regular season exemption and play a conference championship game - this would make that game fairly unimportant IMO
It would hurt the revenue for all the teams in the SEC since they would have fewer home money games (the profit per home game for LSU is really sizeable obviously)... and still make for uneven schedules since you would have either 6 or 5 home games in conference per year
Interesting idea but overall I don't think it could work... as a sidebar not all will care about I also don't like that it reduces the likelihood of seeing quality out of conference games between different major conferences
And besides, the whole purpose of conferences going to 12 teams was to get a regular season exemption and play a conference championship game - this would make that game fairly unimportant IMO
Posted on 9/25/09 at 2:03 pm to Chicken
As soon as the cfb season expands to 16, you'll see this happen
Posted on 9/25/09 at 2:40 pm to Hot Carl
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to what problem?
Teams being penalized for playing tougher conference schedules.
Ole miss could still go to Atlanta even if we beat them. Of course we controll our own destiny, but that destiny takes us through the #1 team in the nation and a possible top 15 UGA team (currently #21). Ole miss will likely play 3 unranked teams from the east.
The problem is lack of equality or level playing field. Unlike national comparisons or conjecture over the strenght of one team........we actually do have 5 common opponents to refer to in deciding who goes to the SECCG. It's not going to happen but its a thought.
Currently there is no distinction in one team losing to #1 Florida and another lossing to doormate Vandy. It doesnt neccesarily decide who the best team in a division is either.
Should the best team in the division be decided by its division record and head to head? I guess thats up for debate.
Posted on 9/25/09 at 2:43 pm to McChowder
This is the one good thing about the pac ten is that they do know at the end of the year who was the best team in the conference was.....the only way their schedules are manipulated or favorably to them is the years where they play the better teams at home and who they schedule ooc. Other than that its fair across the board.
Posted on 9/25/09 at 2:49 pm to LSUintheNW
who the best team in a conference was always remains a matter of opinion... even who was the best team in a basketball elimination tournament remains an opinion debated
if the oregon/oregon state game last year went differently then usc wouldn't have been the conference champs but I think most would have still believed them the best team
and with a situation like the pac 10 playing 9 conference games or the sec going to 11 conference games the schedule is still going to be unfair... half the teams play less home games in conference... and you can play a disproportionate number of teh good teams at home or on the road as well
if the oregon/oregon state game last year went differently then usc wouldn't have been the conference champs but I think most would have still believed them the best team
and with a situation like the pac 10 playing 9 conference games or the sec going to 11 conference games the schedule is still going to be unfair... half the teams play less home games in conference... and you can play a disproportionate number of teh good teams at home or on the road as well
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