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re: We've only beaten one team with a winning record
Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:11 am to Topwater Trout
Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:11 am to Topwater Trout
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and what if florida goes on a run and finishes top 10
Then you’d get credit for beating a top 10, it’s not that complicated. the point thread is not to bash O, it’s to project to next year. Saying you beat a ranked Florida team when it turns out they are horrible and fired their coach is missing the big picture
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 2:16 pm
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Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:12 am to TN Bhoy
Team is going to be bad next year. Going to be like Florida on offense. Better hope our defense turns into untouchable and scores for us. I'll bet LSU next year loses at least 4-5 games.
This is one of the worst years in the SEC recently and yes, it can get worse than Etling at QB with basically a freshman helming it next season. It could also be much better but I'm not optimistic there considering how weak our backfield will be and our history with QBs. I think Brennan needs another few years to develop.
This is one of the worst years in the SEC recently and yes, it can get worse than Etling at QB with basically a freshman helming it next season. It could also be much better but I'm not optimistic there considering how weak our backfield will be and our history with QBs. I think Brennan needs another few years to develop.
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 11:14 am
Posted on 11/20/17 at 11:46 am to Topwater Trout
Right but in reality the win isn't impressive. I don't care what the history books say. It doesn't make the win impressive just because the team was over ranked at the time.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 12:38 pm to Topwater Trout
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would it be better to lose to teams with losing records?
What an asinine argument
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Also why don't we credit for beating teams with winning records when we play them? Syracuse & UF
Lol. And BYU was 1-0!!!
Posted on 11/20/17 at 12:46 pm to lsu2006
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What an asinine argument
I would expect you to not get the point...most of our losses throughout the last 20 years have been to teams with winning records...correct?
Posted on 11/20/17 at 12:52 pm to Topwater Trout
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I would expect you to not get the point...
Sick burn, bro. I get the "point". It's still an idiotic rebuttal. Yes we've beaten most of the teams we were supposed to this year and 1 we weren't supposed to. Doesn't change the fact that we've only beaten 1 legitimately good team this year. I'm happy we've avoided all-our disaster and O deserves credit as such. Pull in a top 5 class this Jan-Feb and win 10-11 games next year and I just might hop on the O train. No excuses for a lackluster result again next year
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:10 pm to H-Town Tiger
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Then you’d get credit for beating a top 10, it’s not that complicated. the point thread is not to bash O, it’s to project to next year. Saying you beat a ranked Florida team when it turns out they are horrible and fired their coach
Are people really counting Florida as a ranked win?
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:12 pm to Tigerbait357
I would hope not.. just like Bamas win over FSU.... they ended up terrible yet Bama fans will say they beat a top 5 team...
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:12 pm to rmnldr
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Should’ve beat State and Troy. Team was immature and foolish. Coach O didn’t have a culture in place
Nope, Coach O owns that, but having said that, he also own the "turnaround" which has come after and therefore, in my opinion, supersedes the losses.
Can't dwell in the past...Move on...the future seems bright.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:13 pm to Topwater Trout
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Also why don't we credit for beating teams with winning records when we play them? Syracuse & UF
Ole miss was 3-3 when we played with losses at Cal and to Bama and Auburn
Are you retarded, thats not how this works
BYU was 1-0 when we played them but look at them now. So you count them as a winning record win?
Florida is awful I don't know how people can dispute that
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:31 pm to lsu2006
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Sick burn, bro. I get the "point". It's still an idiotic rebuttal.
we normally play more teams with a winning record...more chances to beat teams with a winning record. It isn't our fault the league is down.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:35 pm to Madking
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. That team returned more than double the starters this team did and lost 5 games, Miles was given a pass and O is being bashed. Yes there is a huge double standard in every narrative these anti-O people come up with.
He literally just won a national championship the year before, that's why he was given a pass. What has Orgeron done to deserve a pass? The two situations are different. However I do think Orgeron has done a good job since troy but people can be displeased since we only have one good win, he has time to win something in the next couple years but he is not on the level of our previous two coaches...
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:38 pm to ElRoos
Negativity is not the way to go through life little boy.
Go ask your mammy and pappy!
Go ask your mammy and pappy!
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:46 pm to IM_4_LSU
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He literally just won a national championship the year before, that's why he was given a pass.
wait its ok to win a national title (losing to 2 teams they shouldn't have) and lose 5 games the following year? WTF
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he is not on the level of our previous two coaches...
nobody is on the level of Saban...whether or not he is on the level of Miles is yet to be determined. I see a better coached team right now than I did with Miles.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:52 pm to Topwater Trout
I think the reality for O to be on Miles and Saban level is he has to win a conference and national title. hopefully he can do it but until then Its a bit absurd to compare him to both.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 1:53 pm to Topwater Trout
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wait its ok to win a national title (losing to 2 teams they shouldn't have) and lose 5 games the following year? WTF
If O won a national title the year before he would be cut a lot of slack for a season like that.
I think most people are concerned if the success can be sustained
Maintaining recruiting and keeping top coordinators is an essential
A lot of coaches come in and do well in year one then it continues to head south. So lets hope we can maintain and elevate our play
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 2:04 pm
Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:02 pm to Tigerbait357
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I think the reality for O to be on Miles and Saban level is he has to win a conference and national title. hopefully he can do it but until then Its a bit absurd to compare him to both.
Absurd to everyone but O sycophants like Topwater.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:03 pm to Topwater Trout
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wait its ok to win a national title (losing to 2 teams they shouldn't have) and lose 5 games the following year? WTF
What don't you understand? Winning a national title gives a coach some leeway and at least a measure of goodwill. Les nevertheless still came under some serious fire in 2008, particularly for the bungled Co-D.C. experiment. Winning in 2007 didn't completely excuse the sub-par 2008 season but it afforded Les the opportunity to make things right. Which he did, albeit over the course of the next 2 years.
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 2:03 pm
Posted on 11/20/17 at 2:05 pm to Tigerbait357
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I think most people are concerned if the success can be sustained
Maintaining recruiting and keeping top coordinators is an essential
He has to actually have legitimate success in order to maintain said success. Going 9-3 or 8-4 in a historically bad SEC isn't exactly a feather in his cap IMHO, though as I and others have said, we should throw him a bone for avoiding complete and utter collapse.
Posted on 11/20/17 at 3:01 pm to lsu2006
For job security yes it gives them leeway, it’s not an excuse to have a bad season, there’s a big difference. Watch guys like Nick Saban talk about getting teams ready after a title winning season and they’ll tell you that in college football every season is it’s own team and has nothing to do with what happened the season before. Get rid of your practiced rebuttles and try to be open and objective about the discussion.
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 3:03 pm
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