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re: We will look back in 3-4 years and wish

Posted on 11/11/24 at 1:28 pm to
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
4097 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 1:28 pm to
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He has broken the LSU football program


No he hasn't.......yet

Programs aren't broken until they start losing the games you are supposed to win over mediocre to bad teams and recruiting falls off a cliff.
This post was edited on 11/11/24 at 1:29 pm
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68350 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 1:31 pm to
quote:

are we going to pretend the direction Orgeron had the program going in was okay?


Ahh the old straw man argument.
Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
8598 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 1:43 pm to
I look back today at when Woodward was hired and wish the same thing.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5528 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

He has broken the LSU football program

I fear that by the time he is gone it might not be recoverable


Yea O going 6-6 def wasn't a broken LSU football program.
Posted by HattiesburgTiger5439
Hattiesburg ms
Member since Sep 2023
1117 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 1:49 pm to
Amd it absolutely sucks arse. Isn't Woodward the guy who get Jimbo his contract at A and M?
Posted by baseballcoach23
Member since Jun 2017
240 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 2:00 pm to
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And it sucks arse. Isn't Woodward the guy who got Jimbo his contract at A and M?


He was the guy but the booster told him to get Jimbo and here's the money to get him. So don't blame him for the booster wanting to pay Jimbo that money.
Posted by LaTiger045
franklinton
Member since Oct 2023
305 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 2:04 pm to
But they will graduate and LSU has a high graduating rate since he's been here. The ND plan is working . we cant get real athletes but we can graduate.
Posted by High Life
Member since Dec 2014
3820 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 2:13 pm to
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How many active coaches have won a meaningful postseason game? Assuming we are talking about playoff games, here is the list of currently active coaches that have even been to the playoff


I’m not talking just CFP era, Kelly’s been coaching for two decades and doesn’t have a major bowl win. I don’t think he’s a horrible coach but he’s past his prime and his prime wasn’t that great. We need to dump him like A&M dumped Jimbo. I know his contract is a bitch but you can’t put a price on wasting years on mediocre football. Deboer just bullied Kelly into submission. Saturday night was an embarrassment
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70526 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 2:16 pm to
No one can ever name this mystery man coach who we can hire that will be an improvement.
Posted by jhhingle
New Orleans
Member since Oct 2007
3282 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 2:17 pm to
No not USCe or ATM at home we own them here, but the road games @ Bama for sure, OM for sure, CLumson for sure, probly @ OK, maybe @ Vandy?
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
20140 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 2:22 pm to
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but firing a coach three quarters into his 3rd season, who has won 70% of his games or whatever it is, just is not realistic or really desirable.
I don't want to fire Kelly, but using a 70% winning percentage (it's actually 72%) to defend Kelly isn't a positive, not for an elite football program like LSU.

That's going 7-3, and remember we have 3 cupcakes on the schedule every year.

LSU's expectations are MUCH higher than that.

Posted by SidewalkTiger
Member since Dec 2019
70526 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 2:31 pm to
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I don't want to fire Kelly, but using a 70% winning percentage (it's actually 72%) to defend Kelly isn't a positive, not for an elite football program like LSU.

That's going 7-3, and remember we have 3 cupcakes on the schedule every year.

LSU's expectations are MUCH higher than that.


The expectations aren't in line with reality. LSU has never been a year in and year out 11 and 12 win team.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
13453 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 2:35 pm to
I don't believe that will be the case.
Posted by Mobiletiger
Mobile, AL
Member since Dec 2007
1659 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 2:57 pm to
get rid of him and go get Cignetti.
Posted by John Casey
New Orleans
Member since Nov 2016
4097 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

Amd it absolutely sucks arse. Isn't Woodward the guy who get Jimbo his contract at A and M?


Woodward gave the original 10 year $75 million contract.

The next guy oversaw the terrible extension in 2021 that made the Jimbo situation the bad situation that everyone remembers.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22921 posts
Posted on 11/11/24 at 3:37 pm to
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I fear that by the time he is gone it might not be recoverable


You then have no memory of the Miles Decline… we recovered from that.

One thing that is different now vs then, the incoming talent was decreasing back then. The incoming talent now is better than what is on the team.
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