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re: We were becoming a laughing stock under Miles

Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:40 pm to
Posted by ReelTiger1
Member since Sep 2017
1111 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:40 pm to
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even the 2012-2015 2nd in the sec in wins and conf wins


DickDaddy, please don't start. You don't have an argument in any fashion.

Your love daddy MIlES is FIRED. Do you understand. No matter what you want and what stats you post.

He is FIRED and Still after 18 months unemployed. Nobody wants him..

But keep posting his stats.
Posted by lsu1919
Member since May 2017
3244 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:40 pm to
The sec is a mess. No one is beating saban. Miles may have needed to go but unless lsu was replacing him with an up and comer, who was gonna be damn good, most any move outside of urban myer was, at best, lateral.

And so alleva hired the worst coach ever.

This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 2:41 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43789 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:42 pm to
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No, we did not win 10 games per year under Miles. In the end, we were ranging between 8-5 and 10-3.


Miles won 112 games in 11 full seasons. Do the math and tell me what you come up with.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12860 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 2:43 pm to
While I hated the "trajectory" of us under Miles {nods at Rickdaddy} and where I saw LSU headed, looking back a couple of weeks it was apparent to me in the Chattanooga game that trajectory had not been changed for the better.

There's lots to point at. There's some people point at just out of habit (QB for example). There's some valid reasons for some failures, and there's 5 mythical excuses for every valid reason.

But in the end, I'm a results orientated person. I do not understand people who are not. It must be the sociopath in me, the inability to empathize. But last year in an argument with Rickdaddy I stated that that results orientated outlook that applied with Miles (e.g. SECW finishes) should also be applied to CEO.

I am. And it is far from being adequate. The story is incomplete... but that just brings me back to that trajectory word. I don't have to see the final chapter to know what's in it.
Posted by Dawgfan128
Jackson
Member since Sep 2017
1296 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:19 pm to
One day, you will grow up and mature, and you will look back on these times as a wtf moment. It ain't that important kid, in the big scheme of life. At least, I hope you grow up and mature.
Posted by Dawgfan128
Jackson
Member since Sep 2017
1296 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:25 pm to
Miles was done. He went 9-3 in 2013, and was steadily getting worse. Had he stayed in 2016, he would have lost the team. He gave all us fans that paid the money to go to Wisconsin a big Frick you that he was going to do things his way and Frick us. So, Frick Les Miles.
Posted by Dawgfan128
Jackson
Member since Sep 2017
1296 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:26 pm to
Not a fkn team out there wants Les fkn miles.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68377 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:27 pm to
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8 wins, what's the problem?"


Pretty sure under Miles, we were the only team to win at least 8 games every year. We may not have been a contender anymore, but we were not going to tank like every other program had and eventually made coaching changes. Eve Ohio State had one shite season before hiring Meyer.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68377 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:29 pm to
quote:

It ain't that important kid, in the big scheme of life. At least, I hope you grow up and mature.


Yet here you are cursing a coach that won a national title at LSU.

I can't tell if you are even serious anymore or a fricking 51 year old drunk that just blurts shite out.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68377 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:33 pm to
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He is FIRED and Still after 18 months unemployed. Nobody wants him..

But keep posting his stats.


We don't really know this, I mean I'm not taking the freaking Perdue or Minnesota fricking jobs.

But I do know Ed Orgeron is trying his best to make Les Miles look like a freaking genius.
Posted by TriumphTiger
Alpharetta, GA
Member since Sep 2007
10186 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:35 pm to
I live in Atlanta. NOBODY considered us a laughing stock.
Posted by Spankum
Miss-sippi
Member since Jan 2007
55970 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 6:46 pm to
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I don't think "laughing stock" was the perception at all.

If we're talking about the general consensus outside of Louisiana, the sentiment is why did LSU fire Miles, period.


I 100% agree with this...I can tell you that under Miles, our team was considered to be a pretty damn tough game each year. He was quirky as hell, but the only group that didn't really respect Miles were LSU fans....
Posted by TigerDat
Member since Aug 2010
7628 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 8:59 pm to
quote:

ot a fkn team out there wants Les fkn miles


And how many want O? Not a fricking one. Except Alleva's dumb arse
Posted by Eternally Undefeated
Member since Aug 2008
899 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:04 pm to
Too many people on this site way OVERESTIMATE the importance of college sports to the vast majority of the population. If you really believe that people are laughing at you because you are an LSU fan, then you should step back a bit and think about how ridiculous that sounds. It's in your imagination. Don't let it bother you.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7027 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:20 pm to
quote:

He is FIRED and Still after 18 months unemployed.


Lets do the math here. Miles was fired on September 24th of 2016. Today is October 3rd of 2017. So, 365 days in a year, add 6 more days to get to the end of September, add 3 days for October. so if my math is correct, that's 374 days. There's 12 months in a year, Miles has been fired just over one year, so.......

Yep, you're right! 18 months.

Dumbass.

P.S. math is hard.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33793 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 9:40 pm to
quote:

Had he stayed in 2016, he would have lost the team.


Had he stayed in 2016, he would've won the same games that Orgeron did plus Florida in all likelihood. He would've won 8 or 9 games like he usually does and it would've been tough to fire him on that note. Much easier to fire him at 2-2 with that dramatic finish vs Auburn than after he bludgeoned TAMU again.
Posted by XenScott
Pensacola
Member since Oct 2016
3120 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:04 pm to
Not trying to intrude as an Alabama fan, (I got Cajun relatives) the most dreaded game we had was LSU under Miles. It was a physical knock down drag out. Lsu and Alabama were the two most physically imposing teams in the country. I think the change Miles was expected to make was a 2 year process. Can't just flip a switch and change philosophy. Crap it took Saban a full 3 years to do it.
Posted by stain
Member since Nov 2016
10 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:19 pm to
quote:

People outside of the south just don't take CFB that seriously.

To them it's like "8 wins, what's the problem?"

Again, we're talking about general perception. People think everyone was laughing at LSU and that wasn't these case at all, at least not to people I talk to. LSU was seen as a very solid program.


Same here. I'm in Los Angeles and everyone I know respected our program, I would even go as far to say that Miles gave us an identity. I also agree that 8 wins here is different than 8 wins in the SEC.

Under Miles we had the kind of identity that keeps you ranked even during a 4 loss season and keeps you in the daily various national college football shows. I know locally that was never the feeling, but nationally it was. CFB is a fickle sport and few teams capture that identity we seemed to have lost.

I've been watching CFB a long time and I've learned that no team/fan base is ever satisfied, it just sucks when it's teams that had a great coach/program identity....Nebraska, Michigan, Miami, Texas, and most recently LSU.

All that said, we are a laughing stock under O. Just listen to or watch any of the national CFB shows.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20304 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:49 pm to
LSU as a football program was respected under Les Miles.

The only laughingstock was the fan base that was increasingly outraged that we could not beat Alabama with Saban consistently.
Everyone else seemed to realize that Saban has been on an all-time great run, and LSU put up as much fight annually as anyone has.

And now, we've burned the program to the ground, ran off our all-time best coach percentage-wise, to hire Ole Miss's all-time worst coach.

If this had happened elsewhere, we'd be saying "you've got to be fricking kidding me".
Suppose Georgia had fired Richt to hire Sylvester Croom. Newsflash: Croom has a better resume than Orgeron.

Now, we're the new poster child for spoiled, unrealistic fanbase and administration; we've jumped Tennessee, Nebraska, Miami, and the Dallas Cowboys with Barry Switzer. People are going to shake their heads and say "let's be careful, we don't want to do what LSU did".
Posted by KanomieTiger
Member since Jan 2007
307 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 10:57 pm to
The only people who thought LSU was a laughing stock under Miles were Tiger fans. The media, as I recall, thought firing Miles was crazy. The fans of other SEC schools may have laughed, but they do that anyway, regardless of who the coach is - just like Tiger fans do about other SEC programs.
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