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It's all about worth. Does a season ticket holder buy season tickets because they enjoy THEIR seats, or their section, or because they like to get to know their neighbors and see them every year? Do they enjoy not having to look for tickets the week before or on game day? Do they buy season tickets because they're guaranteed to have them again next year, better seating at bowl games, family tickets for 50 years, or simply to monetarily support the program? All of that, or some of that, or other things create the value in season tickets, none of which may be valuable to other people

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Well said. I used have season tickets to multiple teams/sports, usually buying the 2nd or 3rd cheapest level of seats. About 8 years ago I stopped all of that and started using places like stubhub. I don't go to every game anymore, but I enjoy the experience a lot more and saved a ton of money. Now I buy tickets almost exclusively in what would be considered expensive areas at a fraction of the cost.

I miss getting a real shot at playoff tickets, but in the end I actually enjoy this experience more.

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Will some of the O hate subside? I have never seen this much vitriol toward their coach from any school, ever.

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Really? Never? Miles was treated like garbage and he won a NC at LSU. In fact, many fans still refuse to give Miles credit for any success he had at LSU including that NC.

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Is it just me because I see this shite going down the same road .

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No, it is not just you ... I see it the same way. You can even make strong comparisons to Nebraska.

Consistently ranked winning programs firing successful coaches for both not winning impressively enough and not changing their offensive systems to a more popular modern style. That is exactly what happened at all 3 schools.

The irony is that some LSU fans thought that Miles made LSU a national joke, instead it's O and it's happening in a very public way (ESPN certainly hasn't been shy about it, USA Today isn't holding back). It's hard to climb back into national prominence, yet very easy to fall. My fear is attracting a true top level coach in 3 years (when I believe O will finally be fired) instead of having to take a chance on an up and comer. Having a nationally recognized HC is worth it's weight in rankings gold and that is what CFB is all about if you want to be in the discussion and covered nationally.

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People outside of the south just don't take CFB that seriously.

To them it's like "8 wins, what's the problem?"

Again, we're talking about general perception. People think everyone was laughing at LSU and that wasn't these case at all, at least not to people I talk to. LSU was seen as a very solid program.

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Same here. I'm in Los Angeles and everyone I know respected our program, I would even go as far to say that Miles gave us an identity. I also agree that 8 wins here is different than 8 wins in the SEC.

Under Miles we had the kind of identity that keeps you ranked even during a 4 loss season and keeps you in the daily various national college football shows. I know locally that was never the feeling, but nationally it was. CFB is a fickle sport and few teams capture that identity we seemed to have lost.

I've been watching CFB a long time and I've learned that no team/fan base is ever satisfied, it just sucks when it's teams that had a great coach/program identity....Nebraska, Michigan, Miami, Texas, and most recently LSU.

All that said, we are a laughing stock under O. Just listen to or watch any of the national CFB shows.

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Standard should equal 10 wins. Les was held to a higher standard because some years 10 wins just wasn't enough. Not sure why O gets more latitude and much lower standards.