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re: We really need Odo
Posted on 3/5/13 at 1:45 pm to CourseyCorridor
Posted on 3/5/13 at 1:45 pm to CourseyCorridor
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Yeah, I was defending Tigerfan2211 and fjohns1. Those were the posters I was referring to because those were the two you were replying to. What's your point?
You have a hard time connecting things.
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Posted on 3/5/13 at 1:58 pm to thunderbird1100
I don't know about all the arguments on the particulars of the euro landscape, but this guy basically nailed it on page 2...
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Hickey/Quarterman
Morgan/Stringer (this could easily be flipped)
Martin/Coleman
JOB/Mickey
Odo/Malone
Posted on 3/5/13 at 2:08 pm to b rod lsu
Yep that's the way most folks see it. With Martin and Mickey being interchangeable at the 3 and 4 for the most part.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 2:12 pm to thunderbird1100
Mickey looks more of a 3 than Martin but we will probably put him there some to get the best 5 on the court.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 2:23 pm to oauron
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Stringer was recruited to be a PG and started for a year at the position. He was pushed out of that role because Hickey is better at the position.
Stringer was pushed out of that position because he isn't a PG. His height made people want to make him a PG, but he is and always was an undersized 2. Now, JJ may have been able to make him into a PG in his system, but he was never going to be one under Big Bird.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 2:26 pm to thunderbird1100
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just doesnt have good basketball I.Q., doesn't have a good shot, plays out of control 80% of the time
Pretty much all of that was said about Andre Stringer, too. Some guys need to mature for the game to slow down.
This post was edited on 3/5/13 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 3/5/13 at 2:27 pm to Jester
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Pretty much all of that was said about Andre Stringer, too.
I dont know how you could possibly even come close to comparing Stringer to Collins.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 2:29 pm to thunderbird1100
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I dont know how you could possibly even come close to comparing Stringer to Collins.
Dude, Stringer was out of control building houses from 25 feet out his freshman year and had stretches of really inefficient play as a sophomore.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 2:33 pm to SouthOfSouth
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Mickey looks more of a 3 than Martin
I used to feel this way also, but after seeing some of the highlights of Mickey I'm not sure. He plays taller than I expected him to, and he's a finisher around the basket. I'm sure they'll get time at both though.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 2:34 pm to Jester
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Dude, Stringer was out of control building houses from 25 feet out his freshman year and had stretches of really inefficient play as a sophomore.
There's a big difference in taking far out 3 point shots because you're 5'9 and dribbling the ball around turning it over 50% of the time. Stringer was never a turnover machine, but he was definitely an average to below average ball handler. Collins just cant seem to do anything right. Stringer had a shot, he was just as taking it too far out too often. Collins doesn't have a shot, cant dribble and move, cant pass, cant see things as they happen. I mean he literally just cant do anything even on an average level.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 2:37 pm to Jester
Collins is shooting .375 on FG
Stringer shot .334 on FG as a Freshmen
Collins is shooting .435 from 3 (best on the team)
Stringer shot .295 from 3 as a Freshmen
Stringer shot .334 on FG as a Freshmen
Collins is shooting .435 from 3 (best on the team)
Stringer shot .295 from 3 as a Freshmen
Posted on 3/5/13 at 2:42 pm to Jester
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Collins is shooting .375 on FG
Stringer shot .334 on FG as a Freshmen
Collins is shooting .435 from 3 (best on the team)
Stringer shot .295 from 3 as a Freshmen
Dude have you been watching at all? Collins has taken about 10 shots through SEC play total.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 3:10 pm to thunderbird1100
I'm not writing off Collins just yet. He hasn't been good, that obvious, but he reclassified early and skipped a year. He's still very green. This offseason will be big for him. I'm still holding out some hope.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 3:11 pm to b rod lsu
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I'm not writing off Collins just yet. He hasn't been good, that obvious, but he reclassified early and skipped a year. He's still very green. This offseason will be big for him. I'm still holding out some hope.
I certainly hope h gets much better, because that would just be another asset for us, but, I'm not holding out hope.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 3:19 pm to thunderbird1100
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Dude have you been watching at all? Collins has taken about 10 shots through SEC play total.
Which doesn't change the fact that Stringer was terrible as a Freshmen (with a significant sample size). Am I supposed to count it against Collins that Trent Johnson allowed Stringer to keep chucking?
You say Collins is a terrible shooter. The stats, no matter how small of a sample size, discredit your statement.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 3:19 pm to thunderbird1100
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You have a hard time connecting things.
Pot, meet kettle.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 3:25 pm to Jester
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Which doesn't change the fact that Stringer was terrible as a Freshmen (with a significant sample size). Am I supposed to count it against Collins that Trent Johnson allowed Stringer to keep chucking?
Stringer was a MUCH better player as a freshman than Collins has been. It's not even remotely comparable. Stop trying to.
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You say Collins is a terrible shooter. The stats, no matter how small of a sample size, discredit your statement.
The stats are meaningless. Collins is a spot duty player who averages a few minutes an SEC game where as Stringer started and played 30 minutes a game. Collins in SEC play is 3 for 12 shooting and 0 for 4 from 3 point land. You cant possibly compare the 2.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 3:25 pm to Jester
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Pot, meet kettle.
Says the guy comparing Stringer and Collins as freshmen
Posted on 3/5/13 at 3:26 pm to thunderbird1100
Everything is too fast for Collins. He's also gotten worse with that mask on. He'll improve and be a better backup than Chris Bass, but he's got to get comfortable first.
Posted on 3/5/13 at 3:28 pm to tigabait01
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Everything is too fast for Collins. He's also gotten worse with that mask on. He'll improve and be a better backup than Chris Bass, but he's got to get comfortable first.
Personally, I dont see him being better than Bass, but that would be good if he gets to even as good as Bass was. Bass was serviceable as a backup.
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