- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
We Don’t Know How to Handle PM’s Legacy
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:30 am
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:30 am
I’ve really enjoyed watching JJ talk about his relationship with Skip and Paul. Paul showed so much genuine happiness after the win.
it’s probably been 20 years since we’ve had any head coach just retire in good graces. There have been so many PM vs JJ threads and posters trying to pick sides.
Paul retired. he’s Happy, he had a great career. there doesn’t need to be any animosity.
I think JJ is. better coach than Paul was at the end, but Paul is a HOF coach.
Arkansas would Kill for at run like PM had.
it’s probably been 20 years since we’ve had any head coach just retire in good graces. There have been so many PM vs JJ threads and posters trying to pick sides.
Paul retired. he’s Happy, he had a great career. there doesn’t need to be any animosity.
I think JJ is. better coach than Paul was at the end, but Paul is a HOF coach.
Arkansas would Kill for at run like PM had.
28
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:33 am to SammyTiger
sometimes that's a tough call. imo, he's a great coach and he is LSU through and through. he had a lot of success but won ONLY one nattie. skip ruined us. 
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:35 am to SammyTiger
Paul wouldn't have done NEARLY as good at Arkansas as he did at LSU. You have to actually work to get a full roster of top kids at Arky. LSU recruits itself. I mean just look at the work that JJ is putting in. These classes of guys he's bringing in are ludicrous.
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:36 am to SammyTiger
how awesome is it that we can have Skip, Paul, Jay embrace and work together and show their love and support of LSU?
No schools can show that kind of legacy and that kind of lasting brotherhood
No schools can show that kind of legacy and that kind of lasting brotherhood
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:36 am to SammyTiger
quote:seems to me we are handling it perfectly fine.
We Don’t Know How to Handle PM’s Legacy
The guy retired a Tiger, he won a championship, he kept the program near the top. Just smile and move on.
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:37 am to SammyTiger
quote:
Paul retired. he’s Happy, he had a great career.
He met with Notre Dame last year and Miami this year. Allegedly.
He also made sure everyone knew he recruited a lot of the guys on the team.
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:38 am to SammyTiger
He’s the Les Miles of baseball
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:38 am to SammyTiger
PM is a great coach who just went stale at the end. I think his heart just wasn’t fully in it and it showed. He loves LSU and baseball and he decided to stay here after retirement. I consider his legacy to be that of overall tremendous success. He won a natty here and took us to Omaha a few times. Very, very few coaches can say that. If it hadn’t been for Skip, he’d be viewed as the best coach we’ve ever had in baseball. So anyone who doesn’t know how to handle PM’s legacy is kind of a dolt.
Edit: five times, not a few times. He took LSU to Omaha five times, played for a championship twice and won it once. He also took ND to Omaha once. The man is one of the best college baseball coaches to touch a field.
Edit: five times, not a few times. He took LSU to Omaha five times, played for a championship twice and won it once. He also took ND to Omaha once. The man is one of the best college baseball coaches to touch a field.
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 10:41 am
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:39 am to SammyTiger
Paul's issue is that he won too fast and then never won again, but was close a bunch of times, so it comes off to our spoiled baseball fans as if he failed. Jay is facing that same issue now having won in year 2 and so now we have people starting threads asking if he can get LSU to pass up USC in total titles.
There's a better chance that we miss the tournament altogether at least once over the next 5 years than win another one in that span. That's not to say Jay's a terrible coach, but we play in the toughest conference in all of baseball and with how wishy-washy the transfer portal can be, it's pretty much impossible to do what Skip did from 91-00.
There's a better chance that we miss the tournament altogether at least once over the next 5 years than win another one in that span. That's not to say Jay's a terrible coach, but we play in the toughest conference in all of baseball and with how wishy-washy the transfer portal can be, it's pretty much impossible to do what Skip did from 91-00.
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:40 am to JimTiger72
quote:
He’s the Les Miles of baseball
he’s not.
he didn’t get fired mid season.
his last team made a super. so basically a top 8 finish.
he has not been disgraced.
he has a relationship with the university
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:41 am to SoFunnyItsNot
quote:
Paul wouldn't have done NEARLY as good at Arkansas as he did at LSU. You have to actually work to get a full roster of top kids at Arky. LSU recruits itself.
Go look at the roster Paul took over from Smoke.
quote:
I mean just look at the work that JJ is putting in. These classes of guys he's bringing in are ludicrous.
But when Paul did it, you said it's because LSU recruits itself. You contradicted yourself one sentence later.
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:41 am to SammyTiger
quote:
Paul retired. he’s Happy, he had a great career. there doesn’t need to be any animosity.
Agree, but Paul held on too long. The health issues may have limited him. Regardless, we wouldn't have Jay if he didn't retire when he did
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:42 am to Coldcushcush
I think the Skip statue will look real nice when all three are immortalized together, PM on one side and Jay on the other
Crews and Skenes will be up on the facade at the stadium as well one day
Crews and Skenes will be up on the facade at the stadium as well one day
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:43 am to SammyTiger
quote:
he’s not.
He won 1 championship early & had the talent to win multiple times.
quote:
his last team made a super. so basically a top 8 finish.
Top 16?
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:44 am to JimTiger72
quote:
Top 16?
you’re right
.
math is hard sometimes
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:53 am to SammyTiger
As someone pointed out in another thread, Mainieri brings home at least 1 more without the dead BBCOR bats.
He built his team around hitting and power, then the NCAA killed the long ball instantly. Seems like he overcorrected recruiting for small ball after UCLA.
2018 was a rebuilding year, and I think he lost his love for the game after his dad died in 2019. Then baseball was cancelled right before SEC play in 2020. In 2021 he looked like he was in constant pain from his back/disk issues. This has never and never will be reported, but I think he was pretty much constantly on a heavy dose of pain pills trying to coach through his medical issues.
Glad to see him doing well and happy in retirement.
He built his team around hitting and power, then the NCAA killed the long ball instantly. Seems like he overcorrected recruiting for small ball after UCLA.
2018 was a rebuilding year, and I think he lost his love for the game after his dad died in 2019. Then baseball was cancelled right before SEC play in 2020. In 2021 he looked like he was in constant pain from his back/disk issues. This has never and never will be reported, but I think he was pretty much constantly on a heavy dose of pain pills trying to coach through his medical issues.
Glad to see him doing well and happy in retirement.
This post was edited on 6/29/23 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:56 am to SammyTiger
quote:
he didn’t get fired mid season.
he has not been disgraced.
he has a relationship with the university
Most of your reasons are off the field, but I’m talking about on-field performance while they were here.
Both coaches underperformed with the talent they had imo
Also, Les had the opportunity to leave on his own after 2015, so the fired mid season thing seems silly.
I think the difference between the exits of either coach is based on who the AD was.
Posted on 6/29/23 at 10:59 am to SoFunnyItsNot
quote:
LSU recruits itself.
Lol... yeah to home grown Louisiana kids. This isn't the 90's anymore.
Posted on 6/29/23 at 11:00 am to JimTiger72
quote:
LSU recruits itself.
Are you saying lsu wok in spite of PM and talent eas the only reason we ever won anything while he was a headcoach?
Posted on 6/29/23 at 11:01 am to lsu711
quote:You say that as if PM went around pointing at em and telling everyone they were his guys. I saw nothing wrong with him there, and if he responded to questions about guys he signed here...I dont really see the issue.
He also made sure everyone knew he recruited a lot of the guys on the team.
Page 1 of 4
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News