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re: We always lament about 1/9/12

Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:39 pm to
Posted by buccaneer88
San Antonio, TX
Member since Nov 2016
666 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:39 pm to
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Bama was not deserving of a rematch with LSU


Yes they were. Blame Okie St
Posted by nitwit
Member since Oct 2007
13063 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:44 pm to
1/9/12 is date that will live in infamy for good Tiger Fans.
The rematch was not fair, but we did little to help ourselves.
If there was a game plan on offense it was not discernible and despite not getting beyond mid field , Les never made any adjustments.
LSU fans walked away wondering "why"?
The answer, regrettably, was "Les Miles".
Posted by karmew32
Scott, LA (born & raised in Ponchy)
Member since Jan 2017
1738 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:47 pm to
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1/9/12 is date that will live in infamy for good Tiger Fans.
The rematch was not fair, but we did little to help ourselves.
If there was a game plan on offense it was not discernible and despite not getting beyond mid field , Les never made any adjustments.
LSU fans walked away wondering "why"?
The answer, regrettably, was "Les Miles".


The catalyst was Paul Rhoads. Who, ironically, was the DC at Pitt when they upset West Virginia to let us into the NCG.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12402 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 2:55 pm to
Tyrann Mathieu was the MVP of College football that year and was far more deserving of the Heisman than RGIII.
Without TM LSU may have lost to the Hogs and UGa and he was instrumental in the Oregon and WV games.
We were lucky to win the first Bama game with that limited offense.
A great team in many respects and still a great season.
Posted by otowntiger
O-Town
Member since Jan 2004
16752 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 3:37 pm to
disagree. The performance by LSU on the field on 1/9/12 was what ruined everything. That loss was on the team but perhaps even more so the coaching or lack thereof.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85844 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 3:38 pm to
You can't even convince me that fg wasn't good.
Posted by karmew32
Scott, LA (born & raised in Ponchy)
Member since Jan 2017
1738 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 3:43 pm to
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You can't even convince me that fg wasn't good.


The only people that thought the kick was no good were Iowa State fans, Alabama fans, and ESPN executives.
Posted by El Campo Tiger
El Campo, TX
Member since Mar 2015
10118 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 4:17 pm to
I was so confident, I thought we could beat Bama twice.

I was wrong.



Posted by karmew32
Scott, LA (born & raised in Ponchy)
Member since Jan 2017
1738 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 4:24 pm to
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I was so confident, I thought we could beat Bama twice.

I was wrong.



I wasn't. 1/9/12 was a done deal the moment Jeff Woody ran into the endzone and knocked Oklahoma State from the ranks of the unbeaten. ESPN doesn't care about ratings as long as the blue bloods are on top.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 5:03 pm to
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But to have your best team ever not be remembered in the same vein as teams like 1995 Nebraska and 2001 Miami because a 28-point favorite couldn't take care of business is simply tragic.


This is the thing that hurts me most of all when I think "what might have been?" If Okie State takes care of business, they are in the NC game instead of Bama, and LSU pounds them. How different LSU football history would have played out! It still sucks.
Posted by karmew32
Scott, LA (born & raised in Ponchy)
Member since Jan 2017
1738 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 5:20 pm to
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This is the thing that hurts me most of all when I think "what might have been?" If Okie State takes care of business, they are in the NC game instead of Bama, and LSU pounds them. How different LSU football history would have played out! It still sucks.


That FG attempt is a microcosm of the season. If it's a Planck length to the left, whether it's good or not isn't left up to the officials. Likewise, if Oklahoma State beats Iowa State, whether or not they make the NCG isn't left up to the voters.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216133 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 5:32 pm to
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Our defense and special teams were out-fricking-standing



Yes they were...
Posted by lsusa
Doing Missionary work for LSU
Member since Oct 2005
6199 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 5:43 pm to
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quote: Bama was not deserving of a rematch with LSU Yes they were. Blame Okie St



No, they weren't. There was only one objective criteria where the Gumps had a case over LSU, and that was the "quality" of the loss (or quality of the opponent they lost to)

Even that was made closer by the fact that Bama was at home while OSU was on the road and also had the other mitigating factors with the plane crash.


It was the purely subjective "eye test" that got Bama in. The combination of all the folks that got egg on their face after choosing Bama in the first game and the "brand name" saw to that.


This was one of the greatest travesties in the history of sport. Throw it in with the Olympic basketball fiasco and Colorados fifth down
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 5:49 pm to
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LSU got screwed by having to beat a conference opponent it had already beaten. LSU's win was essentially nullified - LSU's "reward" for beating Bama on its home field was to play an extra game vs UGA and then give Bama a do over. Bama was not deserving of a rematch with LSU under the system that was in place. The Gumps were actually rewarded for losing that game.


This is my take. Alabama got a mulligan, so the tremendous effort LSU expended in beating them in Tuscaloosa was basically for naught. I felt they (Bama)should have dropped more than one slot in the rankings after losing to LSU (just my opinion). They didn't win their division or their conference, but they were rewarded with getting to rest up and prepare for LSU when LSU had to get beat up in the conference championship game. And the "revenge" factor was with Alabama. It's always difficult to beat a good team twice in a season.
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 5:54 pm to
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Our defense and special teams were out-fricking-standing.


Yes they were. And the defense held on and kept the game from being a complete rout until it finally wore down. That LSU defense was truly one of the best I have ever seen in my forty-plus years of watching college football.
Posted by karmew32
Scott, LA (born & raised in Ponchy)
Member since Jan 2017
1738 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 6:04 pm to
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There was only one objective criteria where the Gumps had a case over LSU, and that was the "quality" of the loss (or quality of the opponent they lost to)

Even that was made closer by the fact that Bama was at home while OSU was on the road and also had the other mitigating factors with the plane crash.


Exactly. If a blue blood has an advantage in ANY criteria, then the media will shove that criteria down our throats until the matchups have been set.

Part of me believes RGIII won the Heisman because Baylor beating Oklahoma made Oklahoma State's drubbing of them not quite as impressive in the eyes of the voters. If Oklahoma had beaten Baylor, Bedlam might have been a play-in game to make the NCG.
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
83125 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 6:13 pm to
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And it sucks because if the GoTC had gone the other way, no way we get the mulligan. Which is stupid in this context considering Bama hosted the GoTC.

Probably not. But I don't know for sure bc LSU had such an impressive resume outside of the Bama win. Bama did not have such a resume. It's claim was based solely on it's gloriously close quality loss to LSU. LSU could point to those great wins over Oregon and WV.
Posted by karmew32
Scott, LA (born & raised in Ponchy)
Member since Jan 2017
1738 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 6:45 pm to
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Probably not. But I don't know for sure bc LSU had such an impressive resume outside of the Bama win. Bama did not have such a resume. It's claim was based solely on it's gloriously close quality loss to LSU. LSU could point to those great wins over Oregon and WV.


The media would've said it would be unfair to Bama to have to face such a great team again after already beating them.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 7:34 pm to
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s crapped the bed harder than any coach in history a


What? The very next season notre dame crapped the bed harder.


They were losing 35-0 midway through the 3rd quarter.
Posted by atltiger6487
Member since May 2011
19755 posts
Posted on 1/10/17 at 7:47 pm to
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What? The very next season notre dame crapped the bed harder. They were losing 35-0 midway through the 3rd quarter.

huge difference - ND wasn't Alabama's equal that year. They were simply an inferior team that got exposed. I don't define that as "crapping the bed."

2011 LSU was Bama's equal, which makes our performance on 1/9/12 far, far worse than ND.
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