- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: WBB has to make more revenue or cut expenses
Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:01 pm to LSUSkip
Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:01 pm to LSUSkip
You have to have coaches, you have to travel. You have to have a medical and s&t staff, nutrition, scholarships and housing. That shite costs money, it isn't going anywhere even if you put out a winless team that plays in an empty building.
————————————————
Some of those things we would have anyway because of fb team. I’m sure most sports share trainers, nutrition, and even some of the travel things. Also it’s much cheaper to send gym, wbb, or mbb on trips than fb. Dorms would go to students regardless of athletes or not.
I agree with someone on here that said LSU is a brand and it’s good for recruiting for multiple sports to be winning, not just fb and mbb. I’m sure there are some sports that will go by the wayside but let’s not pretend that lsu having a great looking female population doesn’t entice some of these boys to come here. So getting rid of all women’s sports might be a turn off for women to come to lsu which could in turn be a turnoff for the men to come to lsu.
————————————————
Some of those things we would have anyway because of fb team. I’m sure most sports share trainers, nutrition, and even some of the travel things. Also it’s much cheaper to send gym, wbb, or mbb on trips than fb. Dorms would go to students regardless of athletes or not.
I agree with someone on here that said LSU is a brand and it’s good for recruiting for multiple sports to be winning, not just fb and mbb. I’m sure there are some sports that will go by the wayside but let’s not pretend that lsu having a great looking female population doesn’t entice some of these boys to come here. So getting rid of all women’s sports might be a turn off for women to come to lsu which could in turn be a turnoff for the men to come to lsu.
1
Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:01 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:
I think he was referring to the exposure that LSU gained as a whole. The free advertising basically. Impossible to put a dollar figure to something like that, but it isn't worthless.
He put a number on it. But, it never dawned on him what that number was and what it wasn't. It would have to be the equivalent of 8.5 / yr for it to negate the losses referenced in the OP.
quote:
When most of your major sports are doing really well, that typically attracts more students. A bigger pool of students means you can raise your entrance standards and raise the university's standing.
Do you thnk women's basketball had a material affect on enrollment at LSU?
Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:07 pm to moneyg
Women's basketball isn't losing $8.5M a year. They are still losing money like most sports, but it isn't that high. A portion of media rights is due to women's basketball - just not broken down on a P&L sheet.
By itself - probably not. Maybe with girls it does. The percentage of female students at LSU has gone up each of the last 3 years.
When you have sport after sport winning natties in a short time frame, yes it all helps build the brand and exposure of that brand.
quote:
Do you thnk women's basketball had a material affect on enrollment at LSU?
By itself - probably not. Maybe with girls it does. The percentage of female students at LSU has gone up each of the last 3 years.
When you have sport after sport winning natties in a short time frame, yes it all helps build the brand and exposure of that brand.
This post was edited on 7/7/25 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:08 pm to chadr07
quote:
If it helps LSU football and baseball become or continue to stay dominant, then I don’t give a flying shite if Women’s basketball ever wins another game.
How comfortable would you be supporting your little drug addicted brother who is lazy and never works, while the rest of your siblings are all accomplished doctors and attorneys?
After awhile it would get old.
Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:13 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:
The percentage of female students at LSU has gone up each of the last 3 years
why is that good? most universities are majority female now.
This post was edited on 7/7/25 at 1:15 pm
Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:21 pm to moneyg
We all know that most sports are not money makers and that’s fine. We all know that and it didn’t matter. We had big tv money rolling in and we could spend money and make more and more money.
Well now it matters because now we have a big expense we never had before. We have to pay the players.
It’s starting to appear to that to pay the players some sports will need to cut back. That doesn’t seem unreasonable does it?
Well now it matters because now we have a big expense we never had before. We have to pay the players.
It’s starting to appear to that to pay the players some sports will need to cut back. That doesn’t seem unreasonable does it?
Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:25 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:
Women's basketball isn't losing $8.5M a year. They are still losing money like most sports, but it isn't that high
It could be lower and it could be higher.
Do they charge each individual sport for “administration”? No they do not. If WBB had to pay a pro rats share for “administration” the “loss” would be higher, right?
Posted on 7/7/25 at 1:27 pm to TigerCub
quote:
No you're incorrect. They lost $1.9 million in 2024. The audit is online anyone can read it. They came close to breaking even (slight deficit of $66,000) in 2023.
The problem here is that LSU doesn’t report media rights revenue for baseball (or WBB). Media rights revenue is reported for football ($15.4MM) and MBB ($4.3MM). All other media rights revenue ($23.9MM) falls under “non-program specific” under the LLA audit reports or “revenue not related to specific teams” under the NCAA financial reports.
In fact nearly 40% ($85.8MM) of the athletic department’s total revenue falls under the “revenue not related to specific teams” umbrella.
I don’t think people should be making the assumption that baseball loses money based on a reported $1-2 million loss when there’s $85 million in revenue, mostly from contributions and media rights, that doesn’t get allocated to a specific sport. I think it’s likely that most of this revenue is ultimately related to football, but some of it is almost certainly baseball-related.
ETA: I see this has been discussed over the last couple of pages. My point is that it only takes something like 2% of that $85 million bucket to be baseball-related for baseball to be “profitable.” WBB would need to be more like 10%, which I think is unrealistic. However I do think the losses are smaller than they appear on paper.
ETA2: I think ticket sales can be a useful metric for napkin math. Baseball accounts for about 6.8% of total ticket revenue from all sports (as of FY24). Baseball would have to account for ~2.3% of the “revenue not related to specific teams” to break even. I feel fairly confident that it should.
Meanwhile WBB accounts for ~2.7% of total ticket revenue. WBB would have to account for ~10% of the “revenue not related to specific teams” to break even. I don’t think this is very likely.
This post was edited on 7/7/25 at 1:55 pm
Posted on 7/7/25 at 6:10 pm to khill715
Could also ruin the future pipelines of athletes to LSU. Half of the gymnastics team are dating baseball players. You have football players dating WBB players. That's investing in the future.
Posted on 7/8/25 at 11:16 am to TigerCub
Why doesn't LSU up the WBB ticket prices (men's tickets are four times higher)?
Because they don't really "sell" all those tickets and fill up all those seats. They're cooking the books,
Because they don't really "sell" all those tickets and fill up all those seats. They're cooking the books,
Posted on 7/8/25 at 12:51 pm to Mickey Goldmill
It is pretty obvious that girls do not support women's sports. They are too busy watching the Kardashian's. Look who is in the arena for women's basketball. The majority appear to be retirees and men who bring their daughters who look like they could care less. I would love to see an official breakdown by age and sex of the attendance.
Page 7 of 7
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News