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re: Watched the replay of Troy game without bias

Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:37 pm to
Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:37 pm to
I don’t get it.

It seems like these people want so badly to be right, they will stop at nothing as far as mental gymnastics as concerned.
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1882 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:40 pm to
What was Bama’s excuse for barely beating Miss St?

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63797 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:41 pm to
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What was Bama’s excuse for barely beating Miss St?


O = Saban! Scratch that. O is greater than Saban!! Yaw yaw!
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17747 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:52 pm to
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What was Bama’s excuse for barely beating Miss St?

Well, Bama's offense was only on the field for 20 minutes. State were able to convert on 3rd down and didn't turn the ball over. Seems like a recipe to struggle with an outmatched opponent.

Our offense on the other hand was a combined 3-22 on 3rd down against State and Troy and couldn't stay on the field. Go figure.
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108803 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:53 pm to
quote:

Insignificant? It literally says they ran a "mixture" of two different offenses and couldn't move the ball. 

I can understand that point of view because Etling said it wasn't that big of a deal. But, what's he supposed to say? "Yeah, the coaches cost us the game by installing plays from a different coordinator?"

Like anything else, the truth probably lies somewhere in between. But, when the QB says they were running a mixture, it's a red flag in my book

The bottom line is that the entire LSU coaching staff got grossly outcoached in both losses. Let's hope they've learned from it and can use it going forward.
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71123 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:55 pm to
quote:

.O did not have enough time to acquire the depth (on both sides of the line) that was needed to compete with the likes of Troy



Posted by Dave England
Member since Apr 2013
5107 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 12:58 pm to
You need an excuse for winning?
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

What was Bama’s excuse for barely beating Miss St?
They beat them thus no excuse needed. Why did state lose to auburn by 39 points?
This post was edited on 7/25/18 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1882 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 1:02 pm to
It must suck to have a selective memory and totally forget that LSU had suspensions, injuries to key players, and players that were academically ineligible to play for that game......

It’s kind of like a first year coach Saban (at Bama) losing to the likes of ULM....without time to coach up his players...and recruit enough talent to win....
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71123 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 1:03 pm to
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It’s kind of like a first year coach Saban (at Bama) losing to the likes of ULM....without time to coach up his players...and recruit enough talent to win....



Are you seriously comparing the state of LSU's program when Orgeron took over to the one Saban took over in his first year at Bama?

Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108803 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 1:06 pm to
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It’s kind of like a first year coach Saban (at Bama) losing to the likes of ULM....without time to coach up his players...and recruit enough talent to win....

How many of the players on that team do you think were recruited to and/or were going into that season thinking they had a realistic chance to compete for an SEC title?
This post was edited on 7/25/18 at 1:07 pm
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 1:06 pm to
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It’s kind of like a first year coach Saban (at Bama) losing to the likes of ULM....without time to coach up his players...and recruit enough talent to win....
I love this comparison. You act like orgeron inherited the same team as saban. LSU was in much better shape. Thus the this isn't a rebuild speech by alleva. O was hired to keep the ball rolling.
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1882 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 1:44 pm to
Coach O inherited the same limitations that coach Saban had to deal with in his first year....at Bama....I totally agree....and yes I’m comparing the situation for both coaches.....that’s not the same as comparing the coaches themselves.....

Saban could not overcome his limitations and he lost at home to ULM.....but Bama knew that given enough time and given enough quality recruits, that Saban could pull Bama back into national contention.....

I don’t give a crap about the expectations for that year....what was coach O supposed to say....you know guys, we really don’t have enough talent and depth to compete for an SEC title this year....

You really think that would have been appropriate to say even if it was the (hidden) truth.....

Why does it feel like I’m surrounded by a bunch of idiots?

This post was edited on 7/25/18 at 1:48 pm
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108803 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

Why does it feel like I’m surrounded by a bunch of idiots? 

I don't know. Are you standing in a house of mirrors?
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
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Member since Mar 2007
22120 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 1:51 pm to
quote:

Saban could not overcome his limitations and he lost at home to ULM.....but Bama knew that given enough time and given enough quality recruits, that Saban could pull Bama back into national contention.....



It’s amazing that Alabama had such vision seeing as how Saban was such a miserable failure in his previous college HC gigs



quote:

what was coach O supposed to say....you know guys, we really don’t have enough talent and depth to compete for an SEC title this year....



Uh, yes

Why didn’t coaches at Florida, A&M, MSU, Ole Miss, Arkansas etc say the goal was to win the SEC and make the CFP?
This post was edited on 7/25/18 at 1:56 pm
Posted by Tigerbait357
Member since Jun 2011
71123 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

Coach O inherited the same limitations that coach Saban had to deal with in his first year....at Bama....I totally agree....and yes I’m comparing the situation for both coaches.....that’s not the same as comparing the coaches themselves.....



So you are putting the LSU's 2017 roster on par with Alabama's 2007 roster

This post was edited on 7/25/18 at 1:54 pm
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1882 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 1:57 pm to
Roster on paper and roster available for game time are not the same....

Yeah....I am comparing “AVAILABLE” roster for game time against Troy to Bama in Saban’s first year.....

I asked you before....where were you when they announced all the suspensions and injured starters...and academically ineligible players right before the Troy game and the Miss State game...???????

Answer the damn question!!!!

This post was edited on 7/25/18 at 1:58 pm
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17747 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

Coach O inherited the same limitations that coach Saban had to deal with in his first year....at Bama

Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
108803 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 2:00 pm to
How many of LSU's 2nd and 3rd team do you believe would be starters for Troy. I would say a good bit.

Conversely, how many Troy starters would even get playing time at LSU. I would say maybe a handful. At most.
Posted by Robbytiger
Denham Springs
Member since Oct 2010
1882 posts
Posted on 7/25/18 at 2:00 pm to
Why did Bama lose to Auburn?

We beat Auburn
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