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Posted on 9/2/25 at 6:51 pm to GumboPot
I remember that and being pissed. Refs were absolutely terrible.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 6:52 pm to GumboPot
It’s clearly grounding. Anyone who disagrees is either ignorant or trolling.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 6:56 pm to Gavin Elster
The refs took a super broad view of “being hit while throwing affects the throw so it isn’t grounding.” Klubnik waited to throw it away every time until he was in the process of getting tackled instead of right before he’s tackled.
The refs were wrong and it should have been grounding still. That part of the rule is ultimately a judgment call but they took it to the extreme and basically were only going to call grounding if Klubnik yelled “I’m grounding the ball!” right before release.
The refs were wrong and it should have been grounding still. That part of the rule is ultimately a judgment call but they took it to the extreme and basically were only going to call grounding if Klubnik yelled “I’m grounding the ball!” right before release.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:27 pm to tigerfan88
quote:
The refs took a super broad view of “being hit while throwing affects the throw so it isn’t grounding.” Klubnik waited to throw it away every time until he was in the process of getting tackled instead of right before he’s tackled.
Even worse, the rules book says the exact opposite where if a passer starts throwing during contact it IS intentional grounding.
quote:
If the passer is contacted clearly before starting the passing motion, ther
will be a foul for intentional grounding if there is no eligible receiver in
the vicinity or if the pass does not reach the line of scrimmage after the
quarterback has been outside the tackle box
NCAA Rulebook Part II Officiating Standards, Section 7.7
So per the rulebook starting the throw after contact makes it intentional grounding. Doesn't matter if the hit affected the throw since contact was 1st.
This post was edited on 9/2/25 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:38 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
It was literally textbook intentional grounding.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:42 pm to KamaCausey_LSU
quote:
Even worse, the rules book says the exact opposite where if a passer starts throwing during contact it IS intentional grounding.
quote:
If the passer is contacted clearly before starting the passing motion, ther
will be a foul for intentional grounding if there is no eligible receiver in
the vicinity or if the pass does not reach the line of scrimmage after the
quarterback has been outside the tackle box
NCAA Rulebook Part II Officiating Standards, Section 7.7
So per the rulebook starting the throw after contact makes it intentional grounding. Doesn't matter if the hit affected the throw since contact was 1st.

Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:47 pm to Adam Banks
quote:
There was one late that jimari butler almost had a pick 6 on that was just as bad.
You talking about the pass that hit him in the hands? I bet if you really try, you can figure out why that's not grounding.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:50 pm to The Boat
quote:
Refs in 2025 have no idea what intentional grounding is
Rarely ever called to protect offenses
Refs forget about the crossing the line of scrimmage part of the rule. Wouldn't be surprised if this shitty crew thought he was outside the tackles but forgot the ball still has to cross the LOS.
Yeah that's it, they don't know the rules.
Sounds like you're describing consistency here - which might lead one to think there's a reason for that.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:51 pm to 62zip
Klubnik throwing it to no receiver in the act of being tackled and we happened to have a d end there?
Sounds like a guy who is trying to intentionally get an incomplete pass instead of a sack.
Sounds like a guy who is trying to intentionally get an incomplete pass instead of a sack.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:51 pm to Lester Earl
Your angle is about as favorable to the Clemson QB as possible, lol. It’s really wasn’t close at all. I circled where the ball landed. The guy was close to 10 yards away almost parallel on the field to where the ball landed. 

This post was edited on 9/2/25 at 7:55 pm
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:51 pm to GumboPot
Since they gave the final exam on the first day of class the refs were grading on a curve.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:55 pm to GumboPot
Maybe he was just outside the tackle box?
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:58 pm to Adam Banks
quote:
If the passer is contacted clearly before starting the passing motion
Read the rule again
Do yall not watch football besides when lsu plays? Jesus Christ lmao
The throw & hit is simultaneous, and very clearly affects the trajectory of the throw. The spirit of the rule is built in for when QBs try and dump the ball away while wrapped up.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 7:58 pm to Sofaking2
That dude is an idiot. His explanation proves he doesn't know shite about football.
This post was edited on 9/2/25 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 9/2/25 at 8:01 pm to Lester Earl
quote:
The throw & hit is simultaneous
Weeks hits klubnik in the ankles and klubnik starts throwing as he is falling.
Posted on 9/2/25 at 8:02 pm to GumboPot
Based on the video its grounding because ball landed behind the LOS while being outside the tackle box? Ball has to travel beyond los for it to be legal when outside the tackles?
This post was edited on 9/2/25 at 8:04 pm
Posted on 9/2/25 at 8:11 pm to Adam Banks
quote:
Klubnik throwing it to no receiver in the act of being tackled and we happened to have a d end there?
Sounds like a guy who is trying to intentionally get an incomplete pass instead of a sack.
You honestly think a QB who throws the ball directly into the hands of a defender is going to get hit with an ING flag? Seriously? Watch much football?
This post was edited on 9/2/25 at 8:14 pm
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