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re: Was Sunday Considered for making up the game?

Posted on 9/7/15 at 2:50 pm to
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29720 posts
Posted on 9/7/15 at 2:50 pm to
Simple question. Can you FORCE mcneese to stay another night and play a game on a day that they didn't originally sign up for?

LSU and tiger stadium were exactly 1/2 of the equation.

Hell, mcneese would get absolutely nothing out of staying and getting beat down on Sunday. Nothing!
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29720 posts
Posted on 9/7/15 at 2:52 pm to
It very well could have been mcneese that couldn't pull it off(or didn't want to)...and you know Les and alleva weren't going to call them out in front of the entire nation.
Posted by bayouman
Uptown NOLA
Member since Apr 2012
1561 posts
Posted on 9/7/15 at 2:53 pm to
Well said, but these IDIOTS don't care about FACTS, most are under 25 or so and have never been in charge of anything .
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 9/7/15 at 2:55 pm to
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I don't care if the TV stayed or not.



You don't care? So this is all about your juvenile selfishness?

TV has contracts with LSU If a game is played they are bound to cover it. They pay LSU for the privilege.

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But I bet they would have, they signed contracts with their customers also.


Of course they have signed contracts. What you suggest is absolutely insane. You would have everybody that has a contract to do anything regarding an LSU home game contractually obligate themselves for....what exactly? To hang around just in case? I am guessing that you have never negotiated a contract.

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I didn't say it would be easy to implement, but when we have the power to pick and hugely pay our opponent... which is only a few a year... we have the power.





To properly PLAN everybody involved would have to agree to your idiocy.

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If LSU offers me a contract and I like the money, and then they throw in Plan B, which is a RARE occurance, it's my decision to take it or leave it.



What about the people that don't have contracts with LSU, like the hotels? Do they have to hold a certain amount of rooms available for the people who have contracted with LSU to use? Every game?

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There are some games that are crowded into the middle of the season that a Plan B may not be possible


Oh so maybe you don't have to PLAN.

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A team that's less than 2 hours away, on a Labor Day weekend... I think there was room.

You think? But you don't know?
What about the other people involved? The cops for example. It is a big holiday you want them to promise to hang around LSU instead of patrolling? Yeah that is smart.

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FWIW, I do live in the real world, and run a company and other crazy stuff, and even engage in contracts with LSU.



Somehow I seriously doubt everything but th crazy stuff.. I'd like to see your game day contract with LSU.

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It's not like running a country.

People who excel in their field have contingency plans.


A plan must be workable or it is useless.
Assuming and hoping that all the pieces of the puzzle might hopefully possibly work isn't a plan.
Having all of the pieces needed to properly and safely run a game in Tiger Stadium on less tan a day's notice isn't possible.

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Others choose not to excel, and many find that acceptable.

Knowing what is possible and what is not is a component of excellence.


And some choose to live in some unrealistic castle in the sky. And that is regrettable.



Posted by bayouman
Uptown NOLA
Member since Apr 2012
1561 posts
Posted on 9/7/15 at 2:55 pm to
LOL, NASCAR is a BILLION dollar Corp with DEEP pockets, not the same.
Posted by tickfawtiger
Killian LA
Member since Sep 2005
11328 posts
Posted on 9/7/15 at 2:56 pm to
I'm NOT saying you can plan for virtually ALL contingencies ! The exception would have to be a season opener with a team from less than 130 miles away on a long holiday weekend !
We PAID McNeese to come here...simply put it in a contract/contingency plan...i.e. your team will be required to overnite in the area...WHAT is soooooo difficult about that ? The same can be done for the needed "services" the next day...JUST LIKE NASCAR ! They even botched the "we'll play the game IF we can start by midnight"...THEN cancelled at 10:35 WTH ? Don't need full concessions the next day...go bare bones with water/popcorn etc.,etc.,
INSTEAD....the LSU athletic Dept. looked much like Governor Blank-face during the Katrina debacle....agreed ?
Posted by MastrShake
SoCal
Member since Nov 2008
7281 posts
Posted on 9/7/15 at 2:56 pm to
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Nascar ROUTINELY races the day after a rain out....HOW can they possibly do this ? I don't know, but possibly PLANNING !
Nascar rain outs DO happen and they manage to pull off their races

this.

was not.

a rain out.

you're comparing a windy day to a hurricane. this was not rain, it was a 2 hour lightning storm.

NSASCAR has to plan for rain, it happens constantly and they cannot race in it. we can play football in a monsoon, this was even worse than that. lightning usually comes and goes, like it did to UGA earlier that same day. this was an exceedingly rare event, you might as well plan for a zombie attack.
This post was edited on 9/7/15 at 2:58 pm
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 9/7/15 at 2:58 pm to
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Look I'm asking a simple question. How would you handle housing the opposing team and the officials? If you have a better solution than blocking off nearly an entire hotel every single game (wasting thousands and thousands of dollars), then please share.


Housing of the opposing team?
They live 2 hours down the road. See y'all back here tomorrow at noon.

Officials?
For all I know, they spend the night anyway. If not, there's room at Alleva's house.

As you pointed out, this isn't a common occurance. People can afford to be inconvenienced every once in great while.

And maybe you can't for EVERY game, but many you could. This is one of them.

And as far at the TV, they could stay if they wanted, or leave. Their choice. I wonder what they had scheduled for SEC-2 yesterday.
Posted by The Hurricane
Gulf of Mexico
Member since Aug 2011
8929 posts
Posted on 9/7/15 at 3:00 pm to
Nascar and golf can do this when all of its competitors are competing at the same time. Do you think Les didnt want to play this game because it would give State an extra day to prepare and LSU would essentially be losing two days?
This post was edited on 9/7/15 at 3:06 pm
Posted by tickfawtiger
Killian LA
Member since Sep 2005
11328 posts
Posted on 9/7/15 at 3:02 pm to
That's why you develop a contract which some-what "protects" you ! REMEMBER, McNeese got paid and handsomely....I don't think they would have said no, if required to spend the nite in B.R.
Listen, you can't possibly cover ALL contingencies...however, this game vs. this nearby opponent on a HOLIDAY weekend...we absolutely should have used some better planning...why is that sooooo difficult to understand ??
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 9/7/15 at 3:03 pm to
They more than likely did a lot of the game planning for state in training camp. Last week however, they focused on Mcneese. In fact, nearly all coaches use two a days to work a little game planning of every opponent on the schedule.
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 9/7/15 at 3:05 pm to
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what if LSU asked you not work for an entire work day so 1 time roughly every 100 years they could use your services?



I didn't work on Sunday. No problem.

Everything wouldn't be perfect on Sunday, but it was do-able... with some contingency in mind.

The industries around here that most of us work for don't accept average, and that's what allows us to be able to afford to support folks like Alleva.

Why should we accept it from him?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25887 posts
Posted on 9/7/15 at 3:06 pm to
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They live 2 hours down the road. See y'all back here tomorrow at noon.


So have McNeese leave Baton Rouge close to midnight by the time they packed up everything, get home and in bed by 3 am, then have them back up in BR by noon the next day? That's your solution? Also, since we are talking about planning, does this plan mean we can never schedule any out of conference game by any school farther than a couple hours away?
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25887 posts
Posted on 9/7/15 at 3:07 pm to
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I didn't work on Sunday. No problem.

Everything wouldn't be perfect on Sunday, but it was do-able... with some contingency in mind.

The industries around here that most of us work for don't accept average, and that's what allows us to be able to afford to support folks like Alleva.

Why should we accept it from him?


Did you happen to miss that the storm Sunday was worse than the one of Saturday? What would the plan have been then? Monday? Then again on Tuesday? How many plans do you have?
Posted by bayouman
Uptown NOLA
Member since Apr 2012
1561 posts
Posted on 9/7/15 at 3:08 pm to
The medical staff got involved and said they didn't think players should play. Players hadn't eaten all day. AD also said they even talked about playing in the INDOOR facility and couldn't work it out. That tells me the 2 sides couldn't agree. Not much LSU could do.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75621 posts
Posted on 9/7/15 at 3:09 pm to
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I didn't work on Sunday. No problem.


hotels do

which is why i said work day dispirit.

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Everything wouldn't be perfect on Sunday, but it was do-able... with some contingency in mind.


Hotels

how would they work

As a businessman tell me how you would convince a hotel to have a contingency wing for football games every game, just in case.


This post was edited on 9/7/15 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Grassy1
Member since Oct 2009
7330 posts
Posted on 9/7/15 at 3:10 pm to
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You don't care? So this is all about your juvenile selfishness?


I would like the game to be played, primarily for the experience that our players would get in preparation for next week. TV, or not. If TV opted out of Sunday's game, that's their choice. Is that hard to understand?

If you choose to accept mediocrity in your life, feel free to carry on.

Joe gets your vote.

I assume you find the condition of our roads acceptable also? I mean it rains here a lot.
Posted by tickfawtiger
Killian LA
Member since Sep 2005
11328 posts
Posted on 9/7/15 at 3:10 pm to
OK...I give, you simply can not admit that LSU did a very poor job...I get it...LOL
Posted by Mickey Goldmill
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2010
25887 posts
Posted on 9/7/15 at 3:11 pm to
He expects us to force every opposing team to sign a contract that they have to stay overnight hahaha. Let's just forget about the teams that fly in and have scheduled flights.
Posted by bayouman
Uptown NOLA
Member since Apr 2012
1561 posts
Posted on 9/7/15 at 3:11 pm to
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They live 2 hours down the road. See y'all back here tomorrow at noon.


LOL, their contract was for a game Saturday, not Sunday or Monday. They didn't want to came back !
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