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Was Ross a fumble in the OSU?

Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:52 am
Posted by nick0104
Member since Jul 2012
39 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:52 am
Here is the rule book

The rule states:
Maintains control of the ball long enough to enable him to perform an act common to the game, i.e., long enough to pitch or hand the ball, advance it, avoid or ward off an opponent, etc


He could not do much with the ball. The 3 steps was taken while being pushed by OSU defender. The rule does not state amything about steps but rather what he can do with the ball after the catch. The defender wrestled away quickly. If you look at it real time, it is not a catch either.

Y’all going to agree but we shall leave no doubt on you ..
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
10124 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:54 am to
Nick!!!!
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10129 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:55 am to
It was a catch
Posted by rsbd
banks of the Mississippi
Member since Jan 2007
22157 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:02 am to
It was a catch, fumble and score. Refs won the game, Not Clemson

Clemson still hasn’t beat anyone
This post was edited on 1/1/20 at 9:05 am
Posted by BigAppleTiger
New York City
Member since Dec 2008
10376 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:04 am to
It was a catch. Wrong call. OSU still lost the game on their own though.
Posted by Desert King
Member since Oct 2018
1936 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:07 am to
In real time, it was not a catch. Don’t care what anyone says.
Posted by LMfan
Member since Aug 2014
5145 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:07 am to
No, it was not, IMO. He never brought the ball in, was still fighting for it when it came loose.

Jefferson had a similar play in our game (fumble went OOB) that was also ruled incomplete.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:15 am to
he had full control of that ball before it was lost. the rule is stupid.
Posted by DLSWVA
SW Virginia via Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
780 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:17 am to
In real time, it didn't look like a catch. In slow motion, it looked like a catch.

Nevertheless, that one play did not make Dobbins drop the TD pass or Wade get ejected for targeting, which kept that drive alive and ended in an Etienne TD.
Posted by GeauxEaux
Member since Dec 2016
719 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:17 am to
It was catch and fumble. We shouldn’t deny Clemson was the beneficiary of a bad call. Is that why they won? I don’t know but it did help them at a crucial time in the game.
Posted by stephendomalley
alexandria
Member since Dec 2005
5914 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:18 am to
In real time I don't think it was a catch. BUT, it was close enough I could see it going the other way.

if I was to bitch about it, it would be if it was ruled a fumble on the field and overturned. if I remember correctly, they didn't rule. but I may be wrong about that. if they overturned a called fumble, then I can understand the bitching.
Posted by CajunDan
Georgia
Member since Jan 2015
771 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:19 am to
Those three steps would have made it a catch had he been going out of bounds or through the back of the end-zone. It was a catch...
Posted by HuckFinn
Member since Jan 2014
547 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:25 am to
Personally, I have never liked the vagueness of the way a “completion” is defined in college football. With that being said the ruling of an incompletion would be consistent with what I’ve seen in previous disputed calls; namely the catch in LSU’s 7 overtime game with A&M where the A&M receiver caught the ball and turned up field for 2 full strides before being hit and fumbling the ball. It was ruled incomplete; even though he appeared to have secured the ball. However, in this case the call makes more sense because, even though the WR appeared to have caught the ball, the DB’s play was not yet over and he was able to affect the play.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67657 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:25 am to
That was this play all over again:



Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
4057 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:33 am to
quote:

Maintains control of the ball long enough to enable him to perform an act common to the game,

Seems to me that taking steps is the most common act in football and that it should be self evident without stating it. I just watched the play for the first time. That was a fumble.
Posted by LSUlefty
Youngsville, LA
Member since Dec 2007
26441 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:44 am to
I personally think it was incomplete, but I also think it was too close to overturn if that makes sense.
Posted by GeauxTigers247
Member since Oct 2019
1563 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:48 am to
There was not enough evidence to overturn the ruling on the field IMO.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
39103 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:52 am to
quote:

The rule does not state amything about steps but rather what he can do with the ball after the catch

Read your own post, man! The rule absolutely “says something” about the three steps. What do you think “advance it” means?
Posted by fblainen11
Member since Apr 2013
294 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:55 am to
I think it was a catch. If he catches that ball in the end zone the whistle has already been blown and ruled a touchdown by the time the ball comes out.

The guy clearly had control of the ball. It didn't move in his hands until it finally came out.

Bad call, especially when it overturned the ruling on the field.
Posted by TigrrrDad
Member since Oct 2016
7096 posts
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:56 am to
quote:

In real time, it was not a catch. Don’t care what anyone says


This.

In slow motion, it really looked like a catch. But in real time he had it for like 0.5 seconds. No catch. The game is not played in slow motion.
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