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Was Ross a fumble in the OSU?
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:52 am
Posted on 1/1/20 at 8:52 am
Here is the rule book
The rule states:
Maintains control of the ball long enough to enable him to perform an act common to the game, i.e., long enough to pitch or hand the ball, advance it, avoid or ward off an opponent, etc
He could not do much with the ball. The 3 steps was taken while being pushed by OSU defender. The rule does not state amything about steps but rather what he can do with the ball after the catch. The defender wrestled away quickly. If you look at it real time, it is not a catch either.
Y’all going to agree but we shall leave no doubt on you ..
The rule states:
Maintains control of the ball long enough to enable him to perform an act common to the game, i.e., long enough to pitch or hand the ball, advance it, avoid or ward off an opponent, etc
He could not do much with the ball. The 3 steps was taken while being pushed by OSU defender. The rule does not state amything about steps but rather what he can do with the ball after the catch. The defender wrestled away quickly. If you look at it real time, it is not a catch either.
Y’all going to agree but we shall leave no doubt on you ..
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:02 am to nick0104
It was a catch, fumble and score. Refs won the game, Not Clemson
Clemson still hasn’t beat anyone
Clemson still hasn’t beat anyone
This post was edited on 1/1/20 at 9:05 am
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:04 am to nick0104
It was a catch. Wrong call. OSU still lost the game on their own though.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:07 am to nick0104
In real time, it was not a catch. Don’t care what anyone says.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:07 am to nick0104
No, it was not, IMO. He never brought the ball in, was still fighting for it when it came loose.
Jefferson had a similar play in our game (fumble went OOB) that was also ruled incomplete.
Jefferson had a similar play in our game (fumble went OOB) that was also ruled incomplete.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:15 am to nick0104
he had full control of that ball before it was lost. the rule is stupid.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:17 am to Desert King
In real time, it didn't look like a catch. In slow motion, it looked like a catch.
Nevertheless, that one play did not make Dobbins drop the TD pass or Wade get ejected for targeting, which kept that drive alive and ended in an Etienne TD.
Nevertheless, that one play did not make Dobbins drop the TD pass or Wade get ejected for targeting, which kept that drive alive and ended in an Etienne TD.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:17 am to nick0104
It was catch and fumble. We shouldn’t deny Clemson was the beneficiary of a bad call. Is that why they won? I don’t know but it did help them at a crucial time in the game.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:18 am to arcalades
In real time I don't think it was a catch. BUT, it was close enough I could see it going the other way.
if I was to bitch about it, it would be if it was ruled a fumble on the field and overturned. if I remember correctly, they didn't rule. but I may be wrong about that. if they overturned a called fumble, then I can understand the bitching.
if I was to bitch about it, it would be if it was ruled a fumble on the field and overturned. if I remember correctly, they didn't rule. but I may be wrong about that. if they overturned a called fumble, then I can understand the bitching.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:19 am to nick0104
Those three steps would have made it a catch had he been going out of bounds or through the back of the end-zone. It was a catch...
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:25 am to nick0104
Personally, I have never liked the vagueness of the way a “completion” is defined in college football. With that being said the ruling of an incompletion would be consistent with what I’ve seen in previous disputed calls; namely the catch in LSU’s 7 overtime game with A&M where the A&M receiver caught the ball and turned up field for 2 full strides before being hit and fumbling the ball. It was ruled incomplete; even though he appeared to have secured the ball. However, in this case the call makes more sense because, even though the WR appeared to have caught the ball, the DB’s play was not yet over and he was able to affect the play.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:25 am to nick0104
That was this play all over again:
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:33 am to nick0104
quote:
Maintains control of the ball long enough to enable him to perform an act common to the game,
Seems to me that taking steps is the most common act in football and that it should be self evident without stating it. I just watched the play for the first time. That was a fumble.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:44 am to nick0104
I personally think it was incomplete, but I also think it was too close to overturn if that makes sense.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:48 am to nick0104
There was not enough evidence to overturn the ruling on the field IMO.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:52 am to nick0104
quote:
The rule does not state amything about steps but rather what he can do with the ball after the catch
Read your own post, man! The rule absolutely “says something” about the three steps. What do you think “advance it” means?
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:55 am to nick0104
I think it was a catch. If he catches that ball in the end zone the whistle has already been blown and ruled a touchdown by the time the ball comes out.
The guy clearly had control of the ball. It didn't move in his hands until it finally came out.
Bad call, especially when it overturned the ruling on the field.
The guy clearly had control of the ball. It didn't move in his hands until it finally came out.
Bad call, especially when it overturned the ruling on the field.
Posted on 1/1/20 at 9:56 am to Desert King
quote:
In real time, it was not a catch. Don’t care what anyone says
This.
In slow motion, it really looked like a catch. But in real time he had it for like 0.5 seconds. No catch. The game is not played in slow motion.
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