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re: Was Deion Jones just not starting material until senior year?
Posted on 10/30/16 at 5:06 pm to siliconvalleytiger
Posted on 10/30/16 at 5:06 pm to siliconvalleytiger
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Makes you wonder about so many things that should've happened but you told yourself that Miles knows best.
There was literally zero evidence that one had to go on to EVER say Miles knew best.
The whole Welter debacle is so unfathomable that there are times to have to wonder if Miles could possibly be THAT incompetent.
That type shite is why people say things like Miles has favorites. When people say that, it's actually a case of people finding the idea that Miles is that fricking stupid to be hard to believe. So. They think he had favorites.
Me personally, I finally acquiesced to the fact that he was just incompetent.
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Posted on 10/30/16 at 5:15 pm to ShortyRob
Posted on 10/30/16 at 5:19 pm to jrctiger84
No man I'm not acting like that. I can pretty much assure you he didn't blossom into NFL material his senior year. Lack of talent was not the reason he wasn't starting.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 5:21 pm to Bayou
Debo was always good but he was getting better and better ever year. He should have gotten more time S a Junior but he was one of those guys who hit their stride later in their career.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 5:21 pm to Bayou
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Sooooo many guys could have flourished elsewhere from Miles
All of them actually. Every damn player who played under Les Miles would have been a first round draft choice anywhere else. Even clipboard holders would have started and been big time anywhere else in the world.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 5:28 pm to Gray Tiger
Kragthorpe would have been awesome in Jacksonville 
Posted on 10/30/16 at 6:54 pm to Bayou
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Kragthorpe would have been awesome in Jacksonville
The Jaguars?
Maybe.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 6:55 pm to Macintosh
Kwon Alexander
Posted on 10/30/16 at 6:58 pm to Brazos
Chief was a remarkable evaluator of talent.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 6:58 pm to Mr. Curious
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Thought he was behind Kwon Alexander???
He was and that's exactly why he didn't start.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:19 pm to kengel2
Jones would have been undersized as a Mike LB, however he was always better than Louis and Welter. He and Kwon should both have been starting.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:24 pm to NotRight37
Actually, we have had numerous LB's over the years undersized for the NFL but faster than shite. That made them exceptional in the college ranks.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:26 pm to Bayou
Beckwith and Debo are the two best example that I know of that prove I know more than Les Miles about football talent and who should play.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:31 pm to jrctiger84
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Why can't it be that his ceiling is very high and just began to develope into the player that he is later in college??
Very possible, but we are also starting to learn that Miles never let his position coaches and coordinators do their job to their full potential. We know Miles had favorites and was stubborn. It's not out the realm of possibility that this particular situation was Miles' doing.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 8:39 pm to chalupa
LOL
Posted on 10/30/16 at 9:02 pm to Mr. Curious
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Thought he was behind Kwon Alexander???
Initially in 2012 and 2013, he was behind Barrow at Will. Kwon started out as a Sam his first 2 years. in 2014, Kwon moved to Will and that again left Debo on the bench.
I never understood starting Louis over him, because Louis was always just "a guy" to me. I know Chief didn't give that starting Mike position over to a player he felt wasn't ready to "QB" the front 7, but OLBs presumably had less responsibility and started/ saw a lot of time earlier (see Kwon).
a Barrow/ Kwon/ Debo (2013) or Beckwith/ Kwon / Debo (2014) starting group would've been killer IMo.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 10:40 pm to Brazos
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Sooooo many guys could have flourished elsewhere from Miles
They're now flourishing in the NFL. You can't take that away from Miles.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 11:08 pm to Mr. Curious
He was behind Alexander, Welter was MLB we just have some people that heard a comment during an NFL game and reacted to it. Same stuff different day. I do believe LSU should always put their best players on the field though even if you have two MLB that are better than everyone else, try him as a OLB. Why not? Especially if they have the speed to cover which most at LSU do.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 11:16 pm to Bayou
quote:They didn't flip him. They offered him late. Almost passed on him.
Deion was a Cornhusker commit out of New Orleans Jesuit and LSU flipped him.
Debo was always a gamer. He was ready to contribute before his senior year. Was low on the depth chart mainly because of his recruiting status, rated as and average 3 star. There were blue chippers in front of him until his senior year. Yet, whenever he saw the field before then, he looked great. It was definitely a coaching oversight that he wasn't moved up sooner.
Posted on 10/30/16 at 11:49 pm to Bayou
Why do ppl blame steel and chief when miles is the one who made the call to start others in front of jones? As far as jones he probly should have seen more snaps he always played well when he was on the field his weight must've been the issue he was 202 until the spring of his sr. Year that's the only thing I can think of that kept him off the field.
This post was edited on 10/30/16 at 11:54 pm
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