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re: Wade isn’t capable of getting BBall to elite level.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 1:05 pm to roscoe mike
Posted on 1/3/21 at 1:05 pm to roscoe mike
He will produce better results better than any other coach in LSU history....what more can you ask?
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Posted on 1/3/21 at 1:09 pm to Yeahright
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Can't recruit a center. This is fact. I still like him as a coach though.
I wonder why that is? Shrimp Dick V?
Posted on 1/3/21 at 1:09 pm to Jim bean xxx
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Same crap diff year
fans whining and overreacting in Dec/Early Jan is the same crap every year
Posted on 1/3/21 at 1:17 pm to kadillak
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Wade has produced highly efficient offenses while bettering his players. Tremont, Skylar, JaVonte, Emmitt, and Trendon all have shown noticable leaps of improvement each year that they were here. His offensive style seems to work for team results and individual results.
I wasn’t referring to Will Wade with this comment. I was referring to how these kids are brought up playing basketball in most of these AAU organizations. The coaches of these AAU program are only focused on winning and not getting the players ready for college. They literally let them go out there and do whatever, as long as it wins games. So when it comes to their college recruitment(much like AAU), they expect a free flowing offense that lets them do what they want. The problem is, the leap between high school and high level college is leaps and bounds. It’s very hard to win at the highest college level playing this brand of basketball. So with Will Wade, he either has to assemble the best players in the country and hope talent wins a title...or recruit less talented players that fit your system and build it around that.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 1:21 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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What in the actual frick? Which previous team had a poor "culture and identity?" Was it the SEC Champion team from two seasons ago? Or maybe last seasons SEC runner ups? It could also be year one that you are talking about, where Wade took LSU from a 2-16 SEC team to 8-10 and to the NIT.
I like Will Wade. The culture I’m referring to is a lack of fundamentals and discipline. I find it funny how the expectations are different with basketball. Wade has put together how many top 5 classes? Where has it gotten us? Isn’t the goal to win it all or are we just going to treat this differently than we do football/baseball?
Posted on 1/3/21 at 1:26 pm to JWill409
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I like Will Wade. The culture I’m referring to is a lack of fundamentals and discipline. I find it funny how the expectations are different with basketball.
You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about when it comes to fundamentals and discipline. You've shown this in your other post.
And tell me exactly how many national championships we have won in basketball? So your expectations, for a basketball team that has never won a title, and was a complete mess before Wade has taken over, is national title or bust within three seasons (one of which the post season was canceled).
Posted on 1/3/21 at 1:30 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about. You typed out a whole bunch of words to make it seem like you did, but you are clueless.
You can have your opinion. We rely on matchups and 1 on 1s to score and not sets with “actions” offensively. We lack fundamentals defensively, we are not good in transition, we don’t rotate well, we don’t block out, we rely on our athleticism. This is a pattern with all Wade coaches teams. Which is why we get sent home in March from teams that have that culture and identity.
^ There’s some more words strung together that makes it seem like I know what I’m talking about.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 1:34 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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You have absolutely no clue what you are talking about when it comes to fundamentals and discipline. You've shown this in your other post.
And tell me exactly how many national championships we have won in basketball? So your expectations, for a basketball team that has never won a title, and was a complete mess before Wade has taken over, is national title or bust within three seasons (one of which the post season was canceled).
If you put together as many top 5 classes as Wade has and have yet to make an Elite 8 or Final Four, I believe fans have that right to question. All these NBA caliber players mentioned and you’re content with the Sweet 16? Lol what a joke.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 1:38 pm to JWill409
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You can have your opinion. We rely on matchups and 1 on 1s to score and not sets with “actions” offensively
Look. Just because you drew up three plays where Timmy passed it to John, and John passed it to mini JWill to score in 7 year old basketball and they worked every time doesn't mean that basketball works that way. From mid tier level of high school basketball on up, teams are running a motion offense, where they are looking to react off of what the defense does, or take advantage of every mismatch available. LSU runs plenty of sets out of it. The fact that you keep repeating this shows you are clueless.
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We lack fundamentals defensively,
There have been legit issues on defense. There is no denying that.
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Which is why we get sent home in March from teams that have that culture and identity.
Yeah, getting sent home in the sweet 16, after winning the SEC was just garbage. I guess you are also assuming that the culture and identity issues would have sent LSU home early last season, because it fits the narrative you are trying to create.
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^ There’s some more words strung together that makes it seem like I know what I’m talking about
At least you realize what you are doing now, because that's all it was again.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 1:40 pm to JWill409
quote:We’ve had ONE opportunity to make a tournament run off of a top 5 class.
If you put together as many top 5 classes as Wade has and have yet to make an Elite 8 or Final Four, I believe fans have that right to question. All these NBA caliber players mentioned and you’re content with the Sweet 16? Lol what a joke.
17-18 (before a top 5 class)
18-19 (Sweet 16)
19-20 (No postseason)
The amount of ignorance in basketball threads continues to astound me.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 1:43 pm to JWill409
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If you put together as many top 5 classes as Wade has and have yet to make an Elite 8 or Final Four, I believe fans have that right to question. All these NBA caliber players mentioned and you’re content with the Sweet 16? Lol what a joke
Wade has been here 3 fricking seasons you moron.
Year 1, LSU went from 2-16 to 8-10 and made the NIT. Was that year disappointing? Should he have made a run at the final four that year?
Year 2 he won the SEC. LSU made it to the sweet 16 and got bounced by the 1 seed. They did this without Wade coaching as well. Not that I think he would have made a huge difference in helping beat Mich St. They were really good. So is this the season we are shitting on Wade for?
Year 3 he finished runner up in the SEC. There was no NCAA tournament. So how do you know what the results would have been? You just going to assume, and hold that one against Wade too?
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 1/3/21 at 1:56 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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From mid tier level of high school basketball on up, teams are running a motion offense, where they are looking to react off of what the defense does, or take advantage of every mismatch available. LSU runs plenty of sets out of it. The fact that you keep repeating this shows you are clueless.
A motion dribble hand off is not what I was referring to. Apparently you think that wins championships. We will see. My point originally is we don’t have the talent to run that cupcake brand of motion offense that has players that can’t make low percentage shots. Cam Thomas can make those shots, about it. That’s why you see us always getting smoked by the Saint Louis’, VCU’s, Utah State’s of the world. The “7 year old version” of me is not quite old enough to play ball yet but as I’ve said before I’ve got 4 D1 players I’ve coached since they were 12. At Lamar, McNeese, Texas aTm, and ULL. All but 1 are starting as freshman. So I plan to teach the same thing to my sons.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 2:05 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
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Wade has been here 3 fricking seasons you moron.
Year 1, LSU went from 2-16 to 8-10 and made the NIT. Was that year disappointing? Should he have made a run at the final four that year?
Year 2 he won the SEC. LSU made it to the sweet 16 and got bounced by the 1 seed. They did this without Wade coaching as well. Not that I think he would have made a huge difference in helping beat Mich St. They were really good. So is this the season we are shitting on Wade for?
Year 3 he finished runner up in the SEC. There was no NCAA tournament. So how do you know what the results would have been? You just going to assume, and hold that one against Wade too?
So as far as top head coaches in the conference goes, where do you rank Wade?
Posted on 1/3/21 at 3:30 pm to JWill409
“If you put together as many top 5 classes as Wade has and have yet to make an Elite 8 or Final Four, I believe fans have that right to question. All these NBA caliber players mentioned and you’re content with the Sweet 16? Lol what a joke.“
This post couldn’t be more ignorant. Wade has 1 of those classes, his best was 2018 and ranked 4th this years was 6th, so you either don’t know what you’re talking about or don’t follow LSU basketball. How long did it take coach K to win a national title or get to an elite 8? How about coach Cal, or Bobby Knight, or Roy Williams or anybody else for that matter. Claiming Wade should’ve gone to multiple elite 8s because of recruiting rankings when he hasn’t even had the chance yet and one of his classes hasn’t even finished half a season yet is about as dumb a statement as you could make. He inherited the worst conference record in school history yet has had the best start to any coach in program history and you’re bashing him. What a fool.
This post couldn’t be more ignorant. Wade has 1 of those classes, his best was 2018 and ranked 4th this years was 6th, so you either don’t know what you’re talking about or don’t follow LSU basketball. How long did it take coach K to win a national title or get to an elite 8? How about coach Cal, or Bobby Knight, or Roy Williams or anybody else for that matter. Claiming Wade should’ve gone to multiple elite 8s because of recruiting rankings when he hasn’t even had the chance yet and one of his classes hasn’t even finished half a season yet is about as dumb a statement as you could make. He inherited the worst conference record in school history yet has had the best start to any coach in program history and you’re bashing him. What a fool.
This post was edited on 1/3/21 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 1/3/21 at 4:54 pm to JWill409
Wait, wait, you don’t know what you’re talking about right? Lol, you are spot on man. That dude tells people shite like that all the time.
Posted on 1/3/21 at 5:10 pm to Madking
If you compare Wade's first 4 years at LSU to K's first 4 at Duke, a lot of people would be in shock. Hell, K was on the cusp of being fired if he hadn't have pulled that class of Dawkins and Ammaker in around his 5th season.
There are only 2 coaches I would consider replacing Wade with as far as over the long haul. Bennett at wahoo and Drew at baylor. And I probably wouldn't do that. We are In GREAT SHAPE with Wade here long term. Just sit back and let it happen.
There are only 2 coaches I would consider replacing Wade with as far as over the long haul. Bennett at wahoo and Drew at baylor. And I probably wouldn't do that. We are In GREAT SHAPE with Wade here long term. Just sit back and let it happen.
Posted on 1/23/21 at 7:08 pm to oOoLsUtIgErSoOo
So we just got smoked 2 straight conference games by 2 quality opponents. Curious of your expert opinion on why that happened LOL
Posted on 2/4/21 at 12:08 pm to JWill409
Still waiting on the basketball gurus of this post’s expert opinion on what has transpired the last few weeks. TIA.
Posted on 2/20/21 at 10:03 pm to minvielle
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Every fricking year we go through this and every fricking year these same clowns talking shite are dick riding Wade into the tournament.
The bumpty dance it’s yo chance to do the bump
This post was edited on 2/20/21 at 10:10 pm
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