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re: Video: QB's throwing from this morning

Posted on 8/7/15 at 3:20 pm to
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 3:20 pm to
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Yeah, some people have a hard time understanding the difference between constructive criticism & flat out bashing or hatred. You can critique a player's game without outright insulting him.

I'm all ears.

Critique what you saw from AJ in that video honestly........but do so in a way that if you were AJ, you wouldn't be insulted.

Go.
Posted by tlsu15
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 3:21 pm to
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Nothing against Jennings, I wish him all the best but I seriously doubt that he would have gotten a scholarship offer had Cam Cameron been on the staff during his recruitment. There's no way he would have graded out highly enough in the drills Cam puts QB recruits through during camp sessions. His inaccuracies stick out like a sore thumb & he possess average arm strength. Plus he seems to get rattled fairly easily. He's pressing even in these practice drills.


It's hard to say what Cam would have or wouldn't have done before he got here. I do think AJ has some clear physical decencies that don't help him in a vertical style passing attack. I'm not saying he doesn't do anything well, because he does. He just doesn't have the big arm to consistenly push it downfield the way Cam likes.

To say he gets rattled easily is absolutely false though. How soon we forget that his first game action came in the 4th quarter against an SEC opponent in a game we needed to score to win. He went 99 yards on a perfectly executed drive to show us that he does have balls of steel. He showed this same resolve last season against Wisconsin, Florida, and Ole Miss.

There's a lot he can do better. A lot. But to say he gets rattled easily isn't fair to him from what he's already shown us.
This post was edited on 8/7/15 at 4:31 pm
Posted by Will2nd
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2009
4104 posts
Posted on 8/7/15 at 3:22 pm to
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Not to be that guy, but Jennings can't throw against air.


Because of this stuff by the media (not you), their last day reporting with that level of access will be Sunday.
Posted by BigBrod81
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 3:31 pm to
First off, my post wasn't directed at you because I actually agree with the premise of the majority of your posts.

What I don't agree with is you going overboard, posting the same talking points over & over again. It screams of an obsession with the topic. You made your point in the first 2-3 points in this thread. 8-10 more post later is overkill. I don't personally view it as bashing but I can see how some posters would take your redundant post on this topic to be just that.

Secondly, my post had more to deal with post like this & not yours.

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The bashing of Jennings you mean?? I haven't partaken in it but it sure doesn't bother me. He is laying in the bed HE made. Pulling the crap he pulled when he's supposed to be a leader, and missing all summer for it? Whatever gets said about him, he brought it on himself.


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LSU Jax


Go take your afternoon meds baw.
Posted by zsav77
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 3:34 pm to
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He showed the same resolve last season against Wisconsin, Florida, and Ole Miss


Yet he was rattled against New Mex. St, Miss. St., Arkansas, Notre Dame, etc.

Even with the O-line being inconsistent with pass blocking at times and the WRs being inexperienced, he still made terrible throws with regularity that was all him... He made some good passes, but the incompletions and catches that the WRs had to make because of his poor placement far outweighed those.

He has many flaws, including composure. Wish it was the opposite because two compentent QBs would be great, but that's not the case. He would have to make great strides this year to be competent.
Posted by LSU Jax
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 3:37 pm to
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Secondly, my post had more to deal with post like this & not yours.

quote:The bashing of Jennings you mean?? I haven't partaken in it but it sure doesn't bother me. He is laying in the bed HE made. Pulling the crap he pulled when he's supposed to be a leader, and missing all summer for it? Whatever gets said about him, he brought it on himself.

Your post was aimed more at ones like mine? Where above did I bash him in the manner you're speaking of? All I stated was the truth. Is it bashing him to say that it was crap that he pulled and that he made his own bed?

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Go take your afternoon meds baw.

I take them all in the morning, but thanks.
Posted by Tiger79
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 3:45 pm to
Scone man was just talking about the on 104.5 said Harris was head and shoulders above Jennings in route tree drills.
Posted by tigerfoot
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 3:45 pm to
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What I don't agree with is you going overboard, posting the same talking points over & over again. It screams of an obsession with the topic. You made your point in the first 2-3 points in this thread. 8-10 more post later is overkill. I don't personally view it as bashing but I can see how some posters would take your redundant post on this topic to be just that.
It is not his fault people will not listen the first time.
Posted by BigBrod81
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 3:46 pm to
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It's hard to say what Cam would have it wouldn't have done before he got here. I do think AJ has some clear physical decencies that don't help him in a vertical style passing attack. I'm not saying he doesn't do anything well, because he does. He just doesn't have the big arm to consistenly push it downfield the way Cam likes.


It's not just the arm strength deficiencies as to why Cam wouldn't have offered. It's the accuracy & cerebral aspects of quarterbacking as well. I'm pretty sure Cam puts all QB recruits through some type of testing to get a grasp of their football IQ.

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To say he gets rattled easily is absolutely false though.


He had one throw to make to win the game on the TD scoring drive against Ole Miss & he almost over threw that one. I'll give you Arkansas in 2013 & his performances in the second half against Wisconsin & Florida last year.

With that said he absolutely left a big play on the field against Alabama when he could have run for a first down on the final play or possibly scored. Let's not forget his awful performance at Arkansas this past year & him getting in officials faces several times last season. Those incidents with officials were very Bo Wallace like in terms of losing his composure on the field. If that's not being rattled then I don't know what else is.

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Yet he was rattled against New Mex. St, Miss. St., Arkansas, Notre Dame, etc.


I don't know how I left off those performances. He definitely pressed in his first SEC start against Mississippi St. & pressed even more in his start against New Mexico St. where he tried to do entirely too much on his own.
This post was edited on 8/7/15 at 3:51 pm
Posted by beauchristopher
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 3:46 pm to
He was pretty awful in both the Ole Miss game and Florida game though.. Especially upon rewatches
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115623 posts
Posted on 8/7/15 at 3:46 pm to
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It's hard to say what Cam would have it wouldn't have done before he got here. I do think AJ has some clear physical decencies that don't help him in a vertical style passing attack. I'm not saying he doesn't do anything well, because he does. He just doesn't have the big arm to consistenly push it downfield the way Cam likes.


Jennings was cams first QB offer when he got here fwiw

And downfield passing is probably Jennings biggest strength. He throws a beautiful deep ball/fade. Those were most of our offense last year.

He just struggles with short and intermediate accuracy
Posted by BigBrod81
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Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 3:55 pm to
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Is it bashing him to say that it was crap that he pulled and that he made his own bed?


Were the charges not dropped? It sounded to me like an incident that got highly overblown from the get go where arrests didn’t even appear to be necessary. What is your stance on Dwayne Thomas?

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I take them all in the morning, but thanks.


Take an afternoon dosage then.

Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 4:06 pm to
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Jennings was cams first QB offer when he got here fwiw


This isn't correct. Jennings committed well before Cam was even hired. His recruiters were Adam Henry & Steve Kragthorpe.

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Jennings was recruited from Marietta (Marietta, GA) class of 2013. He committed to LSU on 6/7/2012. He was recruited by Adam Henry , Steve Kragthorpe .


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Cam Cameron was officially announced as offensive coordinator on 2/15/2013

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I think you are confusing Harris & Jennings. Harris was Cam's guy.
Posted by legeaux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2013
231 posts
Posted on 8/7/15 at 4:06 pm to
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Look at 5:05 mark

like wth was that. Harris did the same drill and put it right on the money. AJ doesn't even look like he's trying anymore
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 4:09 pm to
Must be. My mistake.

My second point still stands.
Posted by BigBrod81
Houma
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Posted on 8/7/15 at 4:14 pm to
I gotcha.
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10473 posts
Posted on 8/7/15 at 4:35 pm to
I can't explain the New Mexico State game. He was flat out awful and mentally checked out. He had a decent (by his own standard) game against Notre Dame. He certainly wasn't to blame for that loss. He looked shell shocked against Miss State too. I think that was the first time in his career he faced a really good team though and LSU just couldn't match it at first. The run game was non existent against Arkansas and the coaches had already lost faith in the passing game at that point.

Like I said, he has tremendous room for improvement as a QB. But he's shows us that more often than not, if the team can be in the game he'll pull through in clutch situations. Not everyone can do that.
This post was edited on 8/7/15 at 4:36 pm
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10084 posts
Posted on 8/7/15 at 4:48 pm to
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Like I said, he has tremendous room for improvement as a QB. But he's shows us that more often than not, if the team can be in the game he'll pull through in clutch situations. Not everyone can do that.


I don't think I've ever disagreed with a post more than this one. Don't see how anyone can come to either conclusion based on the evidence that was last season.
Posted by tlsu15
Capital of Texas
Member since Aug 2011
10473 posts
Posted on 8/7/15 at 4:50 pm to
Besides Alabama (he almost pulled that one out too) name me games we were legitimately in late in the game that he lost for us?
Posted by Mr. Wayne
Member since Feb 2008
10084 posts
Posted on 8/7/15 at 4:55 pm to
It's a team sport, so I will never say one person was completely responsible. He did not almost pull off the Bama game. He was very much below average and had very little to do with that game being close. After the stupid penalty, he had no chance of completing a pass to put the game away. In OT, he had an easy scramble for a first down and never even considered it.
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