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re: Very interested in hearing the Miles-bashers' answers about the future

Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:14 am to
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:14 am to
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If miles was to somehow shite the bed again this weekend and lose to NMSU
I'll not entertain the fantasy of a back pedaling Miles basher. No, sir. I shan't.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:16 am to
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WOW now THAT seems like a legitimate and fair argument!!
The Miles bashers are the ones who say "with Saban's players," not me. The argument you have correctly exposed as shitty, short-sighted, biased, and dishonest is theirs and not mine. And it proves that selective statistics can be used to spin anything you want. Here's what we know:

4th year on, Saban has a better record at LSU.
5th year on, Miles has a better record at LSU.

Selective statistics, therefore, are unreliable. Comprehensive statistics are much more reliable, and the fact that Les Miles has a better winning percentage at LSU than any of his predecessors does nothing to suggest to me that there is any chance that Miles bashers are not a bunch of miserable shitheads.
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 11:22 am
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:17 am to
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I'll gladly eat my words if he goes on the road and beats UA/UF....because it will have meant he obviously made some changes. Any other challenges there smartazz?? huh?? nothing??
"I hope I'm wrong, but blah blah blah blah blah."
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:19 am to
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Way to cherry pick one fricking possession dipshit
OK dipshit.
2 more on 3rd possession,
4 on the 4th,
3 on 5th,
4 on6th,
1 on 7th (2 plays?)
17 attempts in 1st half, 5 before 14pts down as other posted stated.
The 1st possession, was the only one in the entire game without a pass attempted,.
How's that for cherries, dipshit?

You whiners love to fabricate shite to fit agendas.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:25 am to
Well that's an obvious and miserable defeat for RedTigerRulz. Certainly he will tip his hat to you in deference to a much more informed stance. I make fun of the Miles bashers for being stupid, but there's no way one would be stupid enough to double down on his arguments after they have been so obviously exposed as flawed, uninformed, and misguided.
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 11:26 am
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20996 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:35 am to
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double down on his arguments after they have been so obviously exposed as flawed, uninformed, and misguided.


Hypocrite
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:38 am to
Me: results
Miles bashers: some results

Your issue with my arguments is that I only argue the stuff that counts.
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 11:40 am
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:44 am to
Since your breaking down film there Coach Azzwipe, go back and see how many were on 3rd down when we had no choice but to pass (after running into the line with no success.

If your point is that we passed enough and with the right guy throwing the passes, you'd be wrong on both counts.
Harris (in the last 4 minutes) says hello!
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
99999 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:45 am to
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Ask yourself. Can we do better?

Who is out there? What realistic replacement could we get in place of Les?

My answer? I wouldn't want to risk seeing if we could do better when we're winning 10 games/year, with chances to compete for the SEC and national title in a good number of those years.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:46 am to
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there's no way one would be stupid enough to double down on his arguments after they have been so obviously exposed as flawed, uninformed, and misguided.
Congratulations, Red. You've become the first person in this thread to prove me wrong.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:46 am to
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Your issue with my arguments is that I only argue the stuff that is irrelevant to this season


FIFY ya goofy yankee bastard!!
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:50 am to
I'm not saying we don't need some technical changes, just don't need emotional misinformation clouding reasonable discussion.
It's not constructive and just white noise.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:54 am to
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Your issue with my arguments is that I only argue the stuff that is irrelevant to this season
If you were to be held to this argument, there is very little you would discuss regarding LSU football. In fact, you'd only have one loss to hang your hat on.

So obviously this argument won't work for you. 1/9 was the greatest thing that ever happened to Miles bashers. You can't let that go. You aren't strong enough. So don't you dare sit here and tell me that previous on-field successes are irrelevant as they pertain to a coach's present abilities and potential to win in the future, because we all know that the last thing you miserable, idle-headed hugger-muggers could ever do is dismiss previous failures as so irrelevant. You'll never let go of your favorite thing in the world.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:54 am to
Love it.
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20996 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 11:55 am to
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Me: results
Miles bashers: some results

AlwysATgr: Reality

Your arguments have been inherently flawed from the git-go. That's my issue.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:05 pm to
The flaw is in your interpretation of my argument, specifically your ignorance of my specifically refraining from saying that my argument is 100% conclusive or that stats prove anything.
quote:

Regardless of your preference or taste as far as his coaching style is concerned, the results simply do not support your opinions (like they do mine, for example).
This is 100% true and open-minded, and any flaw you see in it is your inference.

Simply put, if you think Les Miles is anything short of elite, you can't find comprehensive results to support your opinion.

The bashers responded vehemently with "Stats aren't everything brah." To them, I responded, "I never said it was...but it's way more than you've got."

The fact is that Les Miles achieves the object of the game of football more often than anyone else ever did at LSU, and until that changes, you don't really have anything. Deal with it. Nobody cares if you don't like my argument.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:08 pm to
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I'll not entertain the fantasy of a back pedaling Miles basher. No, sir. I shan't.


answer the question! You're not the only one who gets to ask!
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91083 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:09 pm to
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AlwysATgr: Reality


stop wasting your time. You are dealing with some punks here who know nothing about how performance applies in football. All they know how to do is look online at W's or L's and don't have a clue as to why we achieved that or didn't achieve it and how the game was graded under all disciplines. A few here have already admitted they are fine with the STATUS QUO!!!!

They are perfectly fine with miles getting paid megabucks, playing more games and having great facilities to UNDERACHIEVE!

They are perfectly fine with his not so great player and game management, on the field discipline and preparation!

They are fine with his QUITTING on 1-9!

It's like dealing with some on the poliboard. mind boggling. They have no answers for the facts we have laid out. NONE. NADA. ZILCH.

All they can do is personally attack like a liberal does when they get emotionally upset.

The argument is then over. we win. they lose. They do not expect the best or want to be the best thus will never be the best.

pathetic.
This post was edited on 9/23/14 at 12:15 pm
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:13 pm to
ouch!
Posted by Lsupimp
Ersatz Amerika-97.6% phony & fake
Member since Nov 2003
86171 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 12:15 pm to
You don't seem to really enjoy LSU football or like those involved in it. And now you make broad generalities about those who disagree with you, as if people were cartoons, and you are some High Priest of Pissing Excellence. There are free Origami classes at the YMCA, you know...
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