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re: Very interested in hearing the Miles-bashers' answers about the future

Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:12 am to
Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:12 am to
I'm bored with your infantile name calling and refusal to accept facts. You clearly know nothing about football and someone is incentivising you to come here and attempt to distract everyone with you circular argument. You have refused to accept facts and twisted every statistic to your viewpoint.

It was fun toying with you, but I actually have to go to a meeting.

Your mommy has your meds ready. You should be tired by now after 24 hours of non stop posting and arguing. Les certainly got his money's worth on this one.

You might want to check your argument, the take a hard look at The Vest. Tressel had a damn good record too, and ended up on the trash heap as well. Just another statement of fact that you won't want to address.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:14 am to
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If the Miles bashers knew half as much about football as they think they do, they wouldn't be calling for Miles' head ever.


I see you and messin with sasquatch are taking turns being stupid. This is fun.
So no matter what Miles does....ever...he should not be under scrutiny? Please!!
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:16 am to
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your infantile name calling
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Democrat Party underling
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disaffected bohemian who can't quite get over his father's disapproval.
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are you special?
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Did your mommy not tell you




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refusal to accept facts.
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I just proved that Les is exactly like Larry Coker.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:24 am to
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While it is reasonable to attribute some of LSU's success from 2005 to 2008 to Saban


So Saban does get some of the credit for the 07 NC? Am I hearing you right?

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the success of the program after 2008 is 100% Miles


Good but not spectacular...0 NCs

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Miles has done more for LSU football than Saban did or would.


Youre no longer speaking in facts...which youre so fond of doing.




Posted by Katy Tiger
Houston area
Member since Sep 2004
8032 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:24 am to
This training webex is boring, so I just checked back in.

Just to save you the time, Tressel had a 94-22 record at OSU during his run. That is a better winning percentage than Les has. Why did they run him off for being less than honest about a rules viloation you may ask? Because he wasn't winniing the big games. They were pissed that he kept losing to the SEC. The violation just gave them an excuse to can him.

As with Coker, the Tressel W/L record proves that W/L percentage is not the end all statistic to consider when evaluating a coach. I keep making this point to you, with examples and you refuse to understand.

BTW I never directed a curse word at you. Something that you ought to take a look at. You cannot make your case and your frustration leads you to expressing yourself the only way you know how - by cursing. I'll go back and count them up after while when I get bored at work again, but from memory, you had ot have used 50-60 f bombs in this thread alone.

Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:27 am to
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So no matter what Miles does....ever...he should not be under scrutiny?
Grossly exaggerating the opposing point of view so as to frame your own as less extreme will not be a successful tactic in this discussion.

My retort: the results. Let them speak for themselves. The results give you figures that exceed those of any other who has worn the headset full time. Until that fact changes, you people will have nary a leg on which to stand, and as the years add up, you'll only look dumber.

And you know something? Les may go 8-5 this year, and he has proven that he can take such a program and turn it into the #1 team in the country. He has also proven that he can win and outcoach a respected coach in a national championship game. Some of you would kill yourselves if he actually did both in the same year, wouldn't you?

And that's why we LSU fans are actually better than you Miles-bashers. You're more miserable than any LSU fans who came before you, and you've been given the fewest reasons to be so miserable.

That's why we're better than you. We have a game to watch Saturday. And next Saturday, and next Saturday. And we will be happy. And you will be miserable. And one day LSU will win a championship again. And we will be happy. And you will be even more miserable because that night you'll have to feign happiness lest ye be viewed by your friends as a square.

Have a great day, you miserable losers.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:31 am to
Your arguments include:
- I am paid by the Miles family
- I am a Democrat
- I am a bohemian
- Les Miles is exactly like Larry Coker
- I said frick 50 times
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W/L percentage is not the end all statistic to consider when evaluating a coach.
I've never said that it is.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:33 am to
Emotion is not becoming on you Balls.



Sidewalk fans...isnt that the word youre crazy about?.... get emotional. True fans keep the perspective. Youre trying too hard.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:33 am to
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Right THEY WAITED UNTIL WE WERE DOWN BY 14 TO START THROWING.
LSU threw 3 or 4 times on 2nd possession.
No need to scream your ignorance of facts to the board.
Posted by timm6971463
oakdale la
Member since Mar 2008
4387 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:33 am to
The down votes on this post just shows that most real fans have a life
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:34 am to
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I've never said that it is.




You..have...got..to..be..shitting..me???

That's ALL you've said....over and over and over ad nauseum?
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:35 am to
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LSU threw 3 or 4 times on 2nd possession.


Way to cherry pick one fricking possession dipshit.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:37 am to
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Youre trying too hard.
Irrelevant, and "Miles Sucks" for nine years requires more effort than spinning 20 plates simultaneously. No matter what you think of the style points of my argument while applying the eye test, LSU's results under Miles do not lend themselves to the idea that Miles-bashers are not mentally retarded.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:39 am to
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That's ALL you've said....over and over and over ad nauseum?
Not once have I said that win loss percentage is the be all end all statistic when judging the value of a coach, and I defy you or anyone to quote me having said it.
Posted by 2007lsuno1
Marietta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
6692 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:40 am to
Agree 100%.

Mike linebacker??
Posted by Blanky6715
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2014
4378 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:41 am to
Ask yourself. Can we do better?
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:43 am to
I don't think Ive said miles sucks. Just that hes stubborn and cant/wont change. But whatever you say chief!

Quick question for Balls: If miles was to somehow shite the bed again this weekend and lose to NMSU....would you come on here and defend his as fervently as you have in the last 20 pages?
Posted by TheBaker
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2004
4855 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:44 am to
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When you refer to his "own players" , what does this mean? 4th year and beyond?


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5th


Well great, that makes perfect sense...

Lets compare the bumbling idiot's "success" via winning percentages to his predecessors...based on your 5 year "plan"...

That means comparing Les Inches to:

- Cholly Mac from 1966-1979, taking into account 10-11 game seasons with MAYBE one rent-a-win

- Gerry Dinardo in 1999. A 2-8 record, which doesn't count him winning 7 games in '95 (following 6 straight losing seasons), then doing essentially what Miles does for 2 seasons in '96-'97 winning 19 games and going to mid-major bowls...all while playing 11 game regular seasons.

- Nick Saban in 2004. A 9-3 (while again playing an 11 game regular season) and getting to the Cap 1 bowl. That's not counting the NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP he won the season before.

WOW now THAT seems like a legitimate and fair argument!!

Again...take your "Les' winning % is better that his predecessors'" bullshite somewhere else
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
47833 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:46 am to
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Posted by RedTigerRulz I don't think Ive said miles sucks. Just that hes stubborn and cant/wont change. But whatever you say chief! Quick question for Balls: If miles was to somehow shite the bed again this weekend and lose to NMSU....would you come on here and defend his as fervently as you have in the last 20 pages?


Same could be asked of you if he goes on road and beats UF/AU

My guess is that you are only vocal when it fits the agenda
Posted by RedTigerRulz
BFE
Member since Oct 2013
15317 posts
Posted on 9/23/14 at 10:48 am to
I'll gladly eat my words if he goes on the road and beats UA/UF....because it will have meant he obviously made some changes. Any other challenges there smartazz?? huh?? nothing??

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