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re: USC - 2003 National Championship

Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:30 pm to
Posted by TigerB8
End Communism
Member since Oct 2003
9366 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:30 pm to
Gotta love the entitled liberal AP that thinks they are above rules….
Posted by js1591
Member since Jan 2020
2666 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:32 pm to
We would have beat the piss out of them.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
2994 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:38 pm to
quote:

f I remember correctly USC and LSU had 2 common opponents in 2003 and LSU beat each one by more than USC did.


LSU beat Arizona 59-13. USC beat them 45-0. LSU beat Auburn 31-7. USC beat them 23-0. LSU beat each by one more point, but USC had 2 shutouts. That’s pretty much a wash.
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6636 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:43 pm to
Additionally, USC played 1 regular season game against teams who finished in the top 25. That was against #15

LSU played 4 or 5 teams that finished in the top 25
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
3766 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:44 pm to
Well if ESPN showed it, this must be true.
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6636 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:48 pm to
That was season only 1 LSU opponent managed to score in the 20's
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
17620 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:55 pm to
Does not compute.
Posted by Akit1
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2006
7633 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 8:55 pm to
Yes

The AP was under the umbrella of the BCS. That was known going into the season. They decided to remove themselves later. It didn’t make any sense.
Posted by Geaux Tahel
Member since Feb 2006
6636 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

The AP was under the umbrella of the BCS. That was known going into the season. They decided to remove themselves later. It didn’t make any sense.


They (AP) said it was about integrity. Then went on, as journalists, to create a champion as opposed to reporting about a champion. Paul Finebaum's take was hilarious. Basically calling them irrelevant and hypocritical.
Posted by MikeTheTiger71
Member since Dec 2021
2994 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

Additionally, USC played 1 regular season game against teams who finished in the top 25. That was against #15 LSU played 4 or 5 teams that finished in the top 25


Yes, USC played only WSU who finished #9, but did beat them 43-16. LSU beat Georgia twice and Ole Miss with 2 of the 3 wins by 3 and 7 before crushing Georgia in the SECCG 34-13. LSU deserved #1, but it wasn’t glaringly obvious. Part of the problem was that Saban always let off the gas in the 4th quarter while USC tended to run up the score.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
3117 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 10:16 pm to
2003 was the BCS era. 1 team has claim to a BCS National Championship for the 2003 season. That team is LSU. End of story.
Posted by Zamperini2014
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2018
580 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 11:22 pm to
No
Fusc I will never forget! Hope we curb stomp them in Vegas in 2 years
Posted by NOSTRODAMUS
Prairieville/Dutchtown
Member since Dec 2003
16220 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 11:29 pm to
quote:

Link? The schools didn’t agree to anything


You can look it up yourself. Every AD agreed to it. EVERYONE knows it. The media and west coast pussies just ignored it to create the bullshite.
Posted by rob62
Member since Sep 2016
5165 posts
Posted on 12/17/22 at 11:49 pm to
quote:

I get that we are supposed to hate them for claiming that one but in reality though we were better that year imo, the next year for them kind of showed that the 2003 team was pretty damn good.


Well there was a system in place which USC and their entire weak arse conference signed on to. It was called the BCS.

You don’t just award yourself a Natty because you played as #3 and beat #6 while #1 and #2 play each other. The AP just used USC to protest the BCS because they were becoming irrelevant.

Regarding USC, they lost to Stanford who was fricking terrible. So exactly what is their supposed claim to the 2003 Natty? They have as much a claim as UCF had to the 2017 Natty over Alabama.

Systems apply and are not subject to on the fly changes because 1 school gets butthurt.
Posted by la_birdman
Northern GA via Lake Charles
Member since Feb 2005
31033 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 12:07 am to
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1 team has claim to a BCS National Championship for the 2003 season. That team is LSU. End of story.



This. The trophy is in Baton Rouge. I've looked right at it, next to the one from 2007 in the Football Ops Building.


Posted by garrick0102
new orleans
Member since Oct 2003
193 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 12:12 am to
I was in Vegas watching the game with two friends that had bet LSU to win the National Championship. There were two USC fans that started saying they were the real National Champions. One of my buddies stood on his chair and said well then go up to the window and cash your USC ticket and see what happens, because when LSU wins I’m going to cash mine. The guys shut up immediately. It’s still the quickest I’ve ever seen someone win a sports argument in my life.
Posted by RightWingTiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2003
5321 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 6:16 am to
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They agreed the winner of the title game would be voted #1 in their POLL

So ur agreeing that the AP didn’t stick to agreement they made then?

Sweet, now ur finally starting to figure it out.
Posted by RightWingTiger
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2003
5321 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 6:40 am to
Since the Pac12 didn't have a Conference Championship Game USCw didn't have to play an extra game like OU & LSU in order to be Conf Champs.

USC sat at home & watched 2 other teams play an extra game & expected to be given a spot in the Natty.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
43223 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 7:37 am to
quote:

When there were Co-champions in the poll era, no one ever considered those titles to be half a championship
Not true. The BCS was created to quell the co-championship issue.
Posted by Double Down
Mayor of St. George
Member since Dec 2007
6556 posts
Posted on 12/18/22 at 7:49 am to
USC = University (of) sad cucks
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