re: Updated: ESPN reports TM7 wants to stay; nola.com says not so fast

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It's actually not flexible at all. The NCAA oversees the enforcement if the stated substance policies. At the same time, the policies do state that a player must be reinstated after failures. So if LSU wants to be MORE strict, they do not have to re-instate. They can not turn away from failed drug tests without severe shadiness or severe penalty.





This would make sense if it were the same drug policy around the SEC. But it isn't. It wasn't an NCAA test as far as we have surmised. Only a School test. If it was an NCAA test this story would be over cut and dry

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I don't work hand in hand with the NCAA or LSU, so take my understanding with a grain of salt on this.

But each school does create their own substance abuse policies. But the NCAA takes the enforcement of those policies(whatever they may be) very seriously. Schools can not just turn their backs, or treat different players/sports differently.

The NCAA testing is a whole other beast. They are generally testing more for performance enhancing substances than drugs. Different types of tests, different rules for sure.

But rules are rules, and thats what the NCAA is concerned about.

Salt taken.
shite like this would be much easier if the SEC would force member schools to adopt the same drug/substance abuse policy. That way a independent evaluation can take place and there would be less contrived BS. .02c in and done.

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I interpreted it as the only policy they take seriously is their policy, if the school chooses to put a testing protocol in place. The three-strike rule is an LSU rule.

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the ncaa rules state that LSU has to enforce the policy though or it is a NCAA violation

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I still think 13-0 is possible.

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Not good enough...14-0 or bust.

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IMO people/reporters are too hung up on the "drug policy."

I'm pretty sure Miles can kick a player off the team for one drug offense if he wishes and conversely keep a player on the team with 5+ drug offenses if alleva consents.

In either case, LSU's student athlete drug policy is no federal/state law or a "contract" enforceable in court. It's just a guideline and is probably fairly flexible depending on the circumstances.

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As it has been said, schools set their own drug policy, but whatever it is, the NCAA expects it to be followed or it is a violation. Yes, Miles can get rid of anyone because a scholarship is only a one year deal that has to be renewed. But when you are dealing with a player, who is not only good, but who I think is popular with his team mates, I think it's best to go strickly by the book. This said, if they don't, I don't think it will really be Miles' or Aleva's decision although they will take the heat. It will most likely be an Univ Admin decision that says enough is enough...more of a reaction to Penn State.

I think one of two things happenned...Either:

A) TM failed his 3rd drug test...He was offered a 1yr suspension or Dismissal/Transfer. Either TM chose the latter or LSU assumed the latter. Either way, TM should be allowed sit out a year, and return, if that's what he opts for and he meets the requirements LSU places upon him.

B) TM failed his 3rd drug test off the books before this most recent test. It was kept completely secret and swept under the rug with a clear understanding that if another failed drug test occurred, that it was over and he was gone for good. Failed test #4 happened, and LSU cut him loose.



As an LSU fan, I certainly hope for A. However, I don't see why LSU would have any problems/issues allowing TM to change his mind and accept the 1yr penalty...it is after all what the policy calls for on a 3rd offense....Why would there be any issues with that plan? If it is B, though, that obviously puts LSU in a very akward/uncomfortable situation and hence the discussions about whether this return will or will not happen (letting him return under this scenario opens the possibility of opening up a huge can of worms).

Maybe i'm reading things wrong, but there seems to be a lot of uncertainty today about what will happen and what LSU will decide. As much as I hate to say it, that makes me think it was B and failed test #3 got swept under the rug. If this was only his 3rd failed test, it seems like a no-brainer to me that they would follow their own policy and let him do the time and return.

What does Germans mean?

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The LSU compliance officer is

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Hello to you, visitor from the past!

thelawnwranglers

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Sounds like the kid has some character

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I agree. The fact he had the "Marbles!" to even ask for this tells me a lot.

Sit out year. Pay his own way. Honor roll. Pee in cup once a week. 1 mistake gone. That would be my conditions.