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re: Updated 4-year recruiting rankings for all 130 teams, where the SEC completely dominates
Posted on 2/9/19 at 7:24 am to Rickdaddy4188
Posted on 2/9/19 at 7:24 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Ive never used "when we played them" rankings. Not. A. Single. Time
We beat 4th ranked Florida in 1997
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Posted on 2/9/19 at 7:59 am to magildachunks
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I love it when some nobody/alter calls out a board veteran as being an alter.
I cringe whenever a high-post-count poster gets his self-image from his post count.
Posted on 2/9/19 at 8:03 am to Spotswoode
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cringe whenever a high-post-count poster gets his self-image from his post count.
This had nothing to do with what he said.
the likelihood of someone who registered a decade ago being an alter is virtually nil.
Posted on 2/9/19 at 8:17 am to DesenselessPlayer
Defensless.....Negative so early ???? 
Posted on 2/9/19 at 8:18 am to Spotswoode
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I cringe whenever a high-post-count poster gets his self-image from his post count
I cringe when a lower post count poster gets his self image from pointing out a higher post count posters self image.
Posted on 2/9/19 at 9:21 am to Earlpearl
quote:no, obviously people like you need help. Settling for mediocrity is something that is not in my DNA.
You need help. Godspeed.
Posted on 2/9/19 at 9:39 am to tduecen
Too lazy to click or read the entire thread.
Can someone list the composite scores of the top 5 over that time?
I want to see the gap between 1-2, 2-3, 1-5, etc.
TY
Can someone list the composite scores of the top 5 over that time?
I want to see the gap between 1-2, 2-3, 1-5, etc.
TY
Posted on 2/9/19 at 9:46 am to Tiger1988
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Settling for mediocrity
Just stop. This is a tired and false mantra. No one wants to settle for mediocrity. You can be happy, but not satisfied. That philosophy does not equal "settling for mediocrity."
Perhaps I am wasting my time, bc in your prior post you start by saying you hated Miles-- while his latter years were marred by a stubborn refusal to change offense, his first 7-9 years (especially 07 and 11) put LSU in an elite group. If you didn't appreciate those times, you will never appreciate LSU football.
This post was edited on 2/9/19 at 9:47 am
Posted on 2/9/19 at 9:46 am to tduecen
Ok.
Alabama and UGA 99.3
LSU is third at 96.9
Attention: This is a HUGE GAP.
Still nowhere near Bama talent wise.
But then there is good ole Clemson at 95.4.
So, why is Clemson able to destroy a team were there is this huge talent gap?
COACHING
If you really and truly think Ed Orgeron is going to get LSU where it needs to be, you are kidding yourselves.
LSU has "out talented" Clemson during this stretch and still made NO STRIDES toward overcoming Bama.
Yet we are about to extend him. LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Alabama and UGA 99.3
LSU is third at 96.9
Attention: This is a HUGE GAP.
Still nowhere near Bama talent wise.
But then there is good ole Clemson at 95.4.
So, why is Clemson able to destroy a team were there is this huge talent gap?
COACHING
If you really and truly think Ed Orgeron is going to get LSU where it needs to be, you are kidding yourselves.
LSU has "out talented" Clemson during this stretch and still made NO STRIDES toward overcoming Bama.
Yet we are about to extend him. LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Posted on 2/9/19 at 9:53 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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LSU has "out talented" Clemson during this stretch and still made NO STRIDES toward overcoming Bama.
And Alabama and Ga have "out talented" Clemson-- can their coaches get them to the promised land?
If I remember correctly, the 4-year average was heavily weighted to this year's class. So impossible to say O can't get us there based on this alone. Also the averages do not account for transfers (up or down). Therefore, the list in and of itself is not a valid indicator of talent on the field. May be a better indicator of each team's current coach's ability to recruit.
Posted on 2/9/19 at 9:59 am to beauxroux
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If I remember correctly, the 4-year average was heavily weighted to this year's class.
Well Bama just set ANOTHER record with a single-season recruiting ranking in 2019. So that gap will only grow.
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So impossible to say O can't get us there based on this alone.
No. It is possible.
O is still losing to the likes of UF, aTm, lost to Miss St and Troy last year. '
O has a track record prior to LSU and at LSU. There is enough data to show that the 2018 season will be the best you get out of him. 9-10 wins max.
That's it.
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Therefore, the list in and of itself is not a valid indicator of talent on the field
LOL. The group that wrote the article is literally the most reliable recruiting ranking group around.
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May be a better indicator of each team's current coach's ability to recruit.
Uhhhh well...
Ok. How about this. It is one thing to recruit and one thing to coach. Some are great at both. LSU is in the top 5 in recruiting...great. LSU's coach is a bottom 5 coach. Not great.
So, yeah. We know how that ends up.
Posted on 2/9/19 at 10:03 am to Tiger1988
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been saying this and nobody listens. P&G kooolaid drinking idiots on this site. Still finished THIRD in the WEST AND FIFTH OVERALL. They simply won’t acknowledge that. The worst part is losing to TAMU AND UF two teams that you play every year when they are rebuilding. Gonna be a LONG LONG 2019 with about 3-4 losses and the same old Miles shite because all these other teams took small steps forward and passed LSU. Year 1 to 2 for Mullen and Fisher will be major steps. I’m saying 3rd to 5th in the West again this season and that fricking Idiot gives this moron a raise and extension. I hope I’m wrong, but LSU BOS, Alleva and Alexander are that stupid.
EZE listens. EZE understands.
EZE Upvoted.
Posted on 2/9/19 at 10:04 am to EZE Tiger Fan
You may want to read the metrics used in composing the list. It could assist in understanding what the list truly represents. Otherwise you are guilty of falsely claiming it represents something it does not.
Well, this past year LSU was top 6 in final rankings. So if O is a bottom 5 coach, he definitely overachieved. But don't let those facts sway your "bottom 5" opinion.
ETA: and if O does not perform on field, as a top 5 recruiter, the cupboard will be full for the next coach.
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k. How about this. It is one thing to recruit and one thing to coach. Some are great at both. LSU is in the top 5 in recruiting...great. LSU's coach is a bottom 5 coach. Not great.
Well, this past year LSU was top 6 in final rankings. So if O is a bottom 5 coach, he definitely overachieved. But don't let those facts sway your "bottom 5" opinion.
ETA: and if O does not perform on field, as a top 5 recruiter, the cupboard will be full for the next coach.
This post was edited on 2/9/19 at 10:14 am
Posted on 2/9/19 at 10:17 am to beauxroux
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You may want to read the metrics used in composing the list. It could assist in understanding what the list truly represents.
LOL
If anyone would understand recruiting rankings and what they mean, it would be me.
Posted on 2/9/19 at 10:20 am to beauxroux
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Well, this past year LSU was top 6 in final rankings. So if O is a bottom 5 coach, he definitely overachieved. But don't let those facts sway your "bottom 5" opinion.
Correct. Thus my statement above that 9-10 wins is the best you will get out of him.
He definitely overachieved.
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and if O does not perform on field, as a top 5 recruiter, the cupboard will be full for the next coach.
Is this the part where we pretend O didn't inherit a solid program again? Because I distinctly remember Coach Binder got the job because he was going to take what Miles failed at to the next level. There were to be NO DISRUPTIONS in the process, yet it took him nearly three years to do what Miles did multiple times.....while we were all told that wasn't good enough.
PS - I am one of the fans that thought Miles should have been let go years before he was.
Posted on 2/9/19 at 10:24 am to beauxroux
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Well, this past year LSU was top 6 in final rankings. So if O is a bottom 5 coach, he definitely overachieved. But don't let those facts sway your "bottom 5" opinion.
ETA: and if O does not perform on field, as a top 5 recruiter, the cupboard will be full for the next coach.
Lol. The AP poll doesn't mean jack.
LSU finished behind at least 3 other teams objectively in their own conference that are ranked worse than them.
Posted on 2/9/19 at 10:26 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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LOL If anyone would understand recruiting rankings and what they mean, it would be me.
Then you know that 67% of the rankings were weighted to this year's class. So, 2/3 of players that have never played for LSU. Yet you want to use those yet-to-play recruits as an indicator of the current coach's ability to coach players on the field. You don't know what you don't know.
Posted on 2/9/19 at 10:30 am to TrevRollings29
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The AP poll doesn't mean jack.
And the rankings posted here do?
Posted on 2/9/19 at 10:33 am to TrevRollings29
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The AP poll doesn't mean jack.
I would be very curious if this would be you're same opinion if LSU finished outside the top 20.
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