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re: Unpopular question..Besides seeing your team do well on the field, what is benefit of NIL?
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:42 pm to TigerStripes30
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:42 pm to TigerStripes30
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This is why it is essential to find the best organization that can prepare you for the NFL, which many unfortunately are not.
Not really. At this point it’s more about getting them on a good S&C program which most of these programs have. The actual “coaching” aspect of it doesn’t really contribute as much as people think. Especially for the top ranked recruits. Most of them just need to bulk up a bit more before being NFL ready.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 7:45 pm to atltiger6487
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you do understand playing football is voluntary, right? And these players get a completely free education, if they choose to play?
Question.
Would you tell someone on an academic scholarship that Webster’s Dictionary couldn’t pay them to promote their dictionary? (Using it as a hypothetical of course)
Posted on 12/11/24 at 9:28 pm to NewBeginnings
The kids get paid. Is the point of NIL…
Posted on 12/11/24 at 10:48 pm to J2thaROC
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You might would have a point if in this particular case the “job” in question is basically 3 years max for most of the players before moving on to an “even bigger corporation” (NFL).
Most of the players aren’t moving on to the NFL. Very few do.
Posted on 12/11/24 at 11:12 pm to J2thaROC
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Would you tell someone on an academic scholarship that Webster’s Dictionary couldn’t pay them to promote their dictionary? (Using it as a hypothetical of course)
I personally wouldn't, but I also wouldn't consider that slavery which I think was that guy's point.
I actually was on academic scholarship and we would have been able to do NIL type stuff or even get outside jobs to make side cash. "Influencer" wasn't a thing when I was in college but if youtube or instagram or twitch existed back then and I was on my academic scholarship I could have made money off those. However by the rules of my scholarship program I had to be working under a professor doing research by my sophomore year, and we weren't allowed to accept payment from the professors even if they had other students working for them that they did pay. So it was kind of similar in that we couldn't be paid for our scholarship work but we could get other sources of income outside of it, which is what NIL was "supposed" to be. The difference is Gordon wasn't going to pay to get better students in the lab

Posted on 12/12/24 at 7:11 am to NewBeginnings
It’s legal bribery.
It is 100% pay-for-pay.
It is 100% pay-for-pay.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 7:39 am to AtlantaLSUfan
From a purely financial standpoint the ROI is minimal, because most of these kids are not required to do anything off the field in exchange for the money. NIL has simply moved the Bagman out of the Amite barbershop and out into the open.
What NIL is in theory is a really good thing, but what it has become in reality is awful. If there were an actual way to enforce it, you could have a "rookie salary cap" for recruits and transfer portal guys can get what the market can bear. This plus adding a "1 free transfer, after that you sit out" would solve the problem.
Will it happen? Doubt it. College football has killed the goose that laid the golden egg.
What NIL is in theory is a really good thing, but what it has become in reality is awful. If there were an actual way to enforce it, you could have a "rookie salary cap" for recruits and transfer portal guys can get what the market can bear. This plus adding a "1 free transfer, after that you sit out" would solve the problem.
Will it happen? Doubt it. College football has killed the goose that laid the golden egg.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 7:57 am to atltiger6487
Gimme a break. You cannot be serious.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 8:41 am to J2thaROC
quote:A very small percentage of college players make it to the NFL.
You might would have a point if in this particular case the “job” in question is basically 3 years max for most of the players before moving on to an “even bigger corporation” (NFL).
Posted on 12/12/24 at 8:42 am to AtlantaLSUfan
In any other context, pay for play would simply be called “employment “.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 8:52 am to LSUDonMCO
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but what it has become in reality is awful.
I suspect the players think it is a great thing. The overwhelming majority of these guys are not going to play pro football. Being able to make a few hundred thousand dollars from the ages of 18-22 isn't a bad thing. We wouldn't demean an 18 year old plumber if he was doing it.
Now, is it good for the product overall? That's questionable.
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If there were an actual way to enforce it, you could have a "rookie salary cap" for recruits and transfer portal guys can get what the market can bear. This plus adding a "1 free transfer, after that you sit out" would solve the problem.
You'd have to start by making the players "employees" before any restraints on trade can be discussed. Until then, and discussions of salary caps, sit-out rules, etc are complete nonstarters.
Posted on 12/12/24 at 10:20 am to NewBeginnings
It's to show off. Look what I bought! I'm cooler than you!
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