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re: Uh, Clemson lost two home games last year

Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:35 am to
Posted by Switchup91
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:35 am to
Well if everyone wants to keep basing this off of last year because it seems like you all do based on all the "Clemson last year....." posts, let's see about LSU last year.

Lost to a shitty USC team, neutral site.
Lost at A&M in a game that we had total control over until the middle of the 3rd quarter.
Got humiliated at home by Alabama, looked like we had third string in.
Lost to a shitty Florida team.

So yeah we will just keep getting curb stomped I guess because that's how we played last year.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6576 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:38 am to
LSU is a very different team than last years group. Clemson, by and large, has the same crew returning.

Tigers have upgraded bigly at WR, STAR, S, CB, DL, ST & RB.
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 11:40 am
Posted by TigerLum22
Member since Aug 2025
6 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 11:47 am to
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LSU is a very different team than last years group. Clemson, by and large, has the same crew returning. Tigers have upgraded bigly at WR, STAR, S, CB, DL, ST & RB.


So just bringing in transfers classifies as upgrading? FSU transfer class last year was very similar. Clemson won’t be world beaters, but to essentially say Clemson will be the same team, and LSU will be better because of transfer additions, just screams gold and purple shades. We’ll know how good these teams are Week 1
Posted by LSUbacchus81
Hendersonville, TN
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 8/20/25 at 12:18 pm to
Yea well SC and Louisville were better teams than LSU. LSU got a favorable call in Columbia lets not forget.
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6576 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:03 pm to
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So just bringing in transfers classifies as upgrading?


When those transfers are highly regarded players with college tape to back it up, yes. Of course it's sports so there are no guarantees, but all the evidence points to yes, LSU will be exponentially improved at safety playing Tamarcus Cooley and AJ Haulcy in place of a hurt Jardin Gilbert and Sage Ryan.

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FSU transfer class last year was very similar.


No it wasn't. FSU took 17 transfers in 2024. 2 of them were top 100 players. 8 of them weren't even nationally ranked.


LSU took 18 transfers last year. 11 of them are top 100 players and of those 11, 6 were top 50. 13 of the 18 were nationally ranked. The quality of the two classes were night and day.



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Clemson won’t be world beaters, but to essentially say Clemson will be the same team
Isn't Clemson's big positive that they return the most production in college football? Can't have it both ways.


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LSU will be better because of transfer additions, just screams gold and purple shades.


Well, they added 11 established college starters at positions of need. They probably will be better.



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We’ll know how good these teams are Week 1


Agreed.
This post was edited on 8/20/25 at 1:09 pm
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
35944 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:11 pm to
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That’s highly irrelevant.


Clemson having much the same roster and getting dog walked for an entire game by Loserville, not exactly a powerhouse, on their home field last year isn’t completely irrelevant.
Posted by DakIsNoLB
Member since Sep 2015
1234 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:12 pm to
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Clemson, by and large, has the same crew returning.


So, all those returning players stagnated in the offseason? Continuity is a plus.

Maybe LSU transfers mesh immediately, but it wouldn't be surprising if they took a little time to get all the kinks worked out.
Posted by Broski
Member since Jun 2011
81218 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:13 pm to
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Uh, Clemson lost two home games last year



Uh LSU hasn't won a season opener since pre-COVID
Posted by JiminyCricket
Member since Jun 2017
6576 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:17 pm to
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So, all those returning players stagnated in the offseason? Continuity is a plus.


Not always. Sometimes, continuity is a plus but sometimes, guys don't make jumps from year to year. Clemson has questions just like LSU has questions is all I'm saying. You had a team in Clemson that one could argue underperformed it's talent level and mostly the same crew is returning. We'll see if Clemson can put it all together but it's no guarantee.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
35944 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:19 pm to
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Yea well SC and Louisville were better teams than LSU. LSU got a favorable call in Columbia lets not forget.


No. Just no :lo: fricking Loserville was not better than us last year. That’s laughable.

LSU was better than USC when they played, especially after we knocked Sellers’ arse out of the game. Them being at home was a big advantage and reason why it was such a struggle.

Their LB is a fricking idiot. Him trying to be a bad arse is why they got what they got. He put himself in the position for the refs to make a judgement call and they made it. Period. All he has to do is run down the field and celebrate and they win the game.

Later in the season when USC got it rolling, I would agree and give them an edge. Not this year after all they lost on defense and at RB, but the team that played Clemson- sure.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70546 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:23 pm to
Clemson is irrelevant, this game is about LSU. We’ve played like shite in every opener since Kelly’s arrived and that needs to change. If we play a great game and Clemson just makes 1 or 2 more plays than we do, tip your hat and move on. If we have another cluster frick then there’s a big problem in BR.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
35944 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:29 pm to
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So, all those returning players stagnated in the offseason? Continuity is a plus. Maybe LSU transfers mesh immediately, but it wouldn't be surprising if they took a little time to get all the kinks worked out.


LSU returned Sage Ryan, Major Burns, JK Johnson and Greg Penn last year. All multi-year vets. Would you say any of them improved over the previous year?

I’ll go back to the example I’ve given many times. Our OL last year had 3 draft picks and the new guy Chester was the top IOL and the 57th rated player nationally in his class on 247. And he played well in a big game a Mizzou when Turner went down the previous year. There was EVERY REASON to expect the group to take the next step and become a dominant OL. We were all SURE this would happen.

They obviously didn’t. Chester didn’t pan out, there were execution issues we shouldn’t have seen with such a vet group and the obvious lack of push and continuity in the run game. They weren’t bad, but they were a disappointment because they didn’t live up to expectations.

Just because you have talented players doesn’t mean they will gell and become an improved unit. Just because guys come back doesn’t mean they get any better. Many obviously do, but if you just assume it will happen, you will often be let down.
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
109197 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 1:49 pm to
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I’m going to the game. I’ll probably end up banging a couple of them baws’ wives/girlfriends.


I'm going as well and bringing my wife, so I'll probably only be banging one wife on that trip.
Posted by Switchup91
Member since Sep 2021
56 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 2:04 pm to
yeah but returning guys is a good thing....we all know this....sooooooo?
Posted by Carter
Member since Nov 2003
3632 posts
Posted on 8/20/25 at 4:57 pm to
Coach Kelly called Death Valley Jr. for a reason.
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5622 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:00 am to
No, they were not. That was a neutral field. They were labeled the “home” team. They didn’t play in their stadium.
This post was edited on 8/21/25 at 7:01 am
Posted by NBForrest
Member since Nov 2024
112 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 7:10 am to
How dafuq is ATL home for a team from S.Carolina? You are an extra level genius.....yeah we all know that a team has to be "home" when they play a neutral site....do you report for CNN?
Posted by TigerScorpion
Mississippi
Member since Aug 2018
2084 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 11:04 am to
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I'm going as well and bringing my wife, so I'll probably only be banging one wife on that trip.


Posted by DakIsNoLB
Member since Sep 2015
1234 posts
Posted on 8/21/25 at 11:23 am to
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Not always. Sometimes, continuity is a plus but sometimes, guys don't make jumps from year to year. Clemson has questions just like LSU has questions is all I'm saying. You had a team in Clemson that one could argue underperformed it's talent level and mostly the same crew is returning. We'll see if Clemson can put it all together but it's no guarantee.


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Just because you have talented players doesn’t mean they will gell and become an improved unit. Just because guys come back doesn’t mean they get any better. Many obviously do, but if you just assume it will happen, you will often be let down.


Yes, it's certainly possible players don't improve much from the year before, but that's not where I'd be putting my money going up against a championship winning program in their own house with several returning starters that went to the playoffs.

At the beginning of the season, continuity from last year should be an advantage over getting a lot of new guys to mesh together. We will see if it that's true.
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