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re: Tyrann Mathieu may be the best pound for pound football player of all time
Posted on 5/6/22 at 1:03 pm to Hot Carl
Posted on 5/6/22 at 1:03 pm to Hot Carl
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Reading back, I realize I didn’t specify college football. I ain’t thinking pro career. And I may not have stressed the “pound for pound” aspect as much as I assumed I had.
Still not better than Barry Sanders:
2600+ yds (plus another 222 in the Holiday Bowl that don't count toward official stats)
7.6 ypc
37 TD (44 if you count the bowl game and all-purpose touchdowns)
This post was edited on 5/6/22 at 1:06 pm
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Posted on 5/6/22 at 1:25 pm to tigercross
Well, someone else had to give Barry the ball. Tyrann would just take it upon himself.
Sanders was special. No doubt about it. But he's also the type of player who comes to mind when the OP's question is broached.
Sanders was special. No doubt about it. But he's also the type of player who comes to mind when the OP's question is broached.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 1:45 pm to Hot Carl
My favorite all time player. I will never forget texting my buddy from the stands at the opener his freshman year vs N. Carolina. I asked him who the heck #14 was and where did he come from. He impressed me so much. We were up 30-10 and in Les Miles fashion we were all of a sudden up 30-24 with a little over a minute left and NC was driving to win the game. And Tyrann in Honey Badger fashion strips the ball from the QB causing a game winning turnover. He would go on to do that same thing so many times.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 2:52 pm to kciDAtaE
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We crushed everyone that year.
He played more than that season.
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Sure, you can argue some of his plays turned the tide.
You CAN?
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But go look at those scores. Outside of Alabama, we beat everyone by double digits.
Looking at final scores is stupid. There were a couple of games that were very close until he made a play to change the entire game, and we wound up dominating afterwards and pulling away.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 2:58 pm to tigercross
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Still not better than Barry Sanders:
2600+ yds (plus another 222 in the Holiday Bowl that don't count toward official stats) 7.6 ypc 37 TD (44 if you count the bowl game and all-purpose touchdowns)
Were those teams any good? Barry may have been the most electric and exciting football player ever, but his running style was not conducive to winning football. He could rip off a couple of 75 yards touchdown and finish a game with 180 yards and 2 tds, averaging 8 yards/carry. On paper, that’s an amazing game. But in context, it may not have been as great as it seems. He lost yards on too many plays, putting his teams consistently behind the chains in 2nd and 12s or 3rd and 13s.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 3:38 pm to tgr4ever
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I was in the Georgia Dome for the SEC championship in 2011, never seen one guy will a team back to life like he did with those punt returns. The offense was dead in the water until he got the first touchdown, then the 2nd return was just ridiculous.
Yep. They won the SEC champ. and shite a brick against Alabama in the Natty. He gave us false hope after that game.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:08 pm to Hot Carl
All you need to know about him is people still hesitate to call Joe Burrow the best tiger ever. Joe's senior year was one of the best in all of college football history not just LSU history. And when the conversations about goat all time LSU football player starts we of course talk about Burrow but we always mention Mathieu. Given his position that is impressive. He will always be at worst a top 5 all time LSU football player. And that's not anything to take lightly.
And damnit who doesn't love a good redemption story? So many people in his circumstances are never heard from again. And he's on track to have a ten year plus very successful NFL career.
If he plays in 2012 we win another championship.
And damnit who doesn't love a good redemption story? So many people in his circumstances are never heard from again. And he's on track to have a ten year plus very successful NFL career.
If he plays in 2012 we win another championship.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 4:18 pm to Hot Carl
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Were those teams any good? Barry may have been the most electric and exciting football player ever, but his running style was not conducive to winning football. He could rip off a couple of 75 yards touchdown and finish a game with 180 yards and 2 tds, averaging 8 yards/carry. On paper, that’s an amazing game. But in context, it may not have been as great as it seems. He lost yards on too many plays, putting his teams consistently behind the chains in 2nd and 12s or 3rd and 13s.
1) His negative yardage carries are counted in that 2800 yd total.
2) OSU went 10-2 that year. That's pretty dang good.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 5:23 pm to tigercross
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1) His negative yardage carries are counted in that 2800 yd total.
You completely miss the point. It’s not able the total yards he lost. It’s about how often he put his offense behind the chains.
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2) OSU went 10-2 that year. That's pretty dang good.
They were pretty good that year, and he was in believable. But his game was much more suitable for the college game at that time than the NFL, where you have to be able to pass the ball. Not like now, but you still had to more back then than I’m college. But since this is a thread about college, Barry is certainly in the conversation. I’m sure he weighed a good bit more than Tyrann, but he was so good that he’s still in the best “pound for pound” discussion.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 5:37 pm to Hot Carl
I thought this title was and always shall be Walter Payton?
Posted on 5/6/22 at 6:13 pm to Nutriaitch
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do you remember Peterson getting a Heisman invite?
he should have won the Heisman
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:04 pm to TrueTiger
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he should have won the Heisman
so should Mathieu
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:34 pm to Hot Carl
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He single-handedly changed—if not straight up won games
I was there live when he did this v UGA in SECCG.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 8:50 pm to Nutriaitch
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so should Mathieu
that's who I was talking about
Posted on 5/6/22 at 10:11 pm to Hot Carl
Greatest college defender I’ve ever seen.
Posted on 5/6/22 at 11:55 pm to Hot Carl
Couldn’t agree with you more. He understands the game with a simplicity that is unnerving. He grasps the fact that the game is about the ball and short circuits the typical pace of the game. Simply takes the ball and swings the momentum of the entire ballgame. A wonder to behold and he was a Tiger. We were blessed to have him!
Posted on 5/7/22 at 12:30 am to Hot Carl
Whoever downvoted this post sucks as a human being
Posted on 5/7/22 at 7:21 am to Hot Carl
“ It is not the size of the dog in the fight that counts, but the fight in the dog that wins”
Posted on 5/7/22 at 7:25 am to Hot Carl
Is there any player that compares? During his interview he said that he wasn’t 169 and 5’7” when he arrived at LSU. Said more like 5’5” and 155lbs. That’s crazy when you actually watch what he did and who he was hitting.
Posted on 5/7/22 at 7:29 am to SL Tiger
5’5
And he’s competing in the SEC as a safety. And laying people out.
I think that settles the whole “pound for pound” debate
And he’s competing in the SEC as a safety. And laying people out.
I think that settles the whole “pound for pound” debate
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